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I try to make it more efficient, easy to navigate and > manage. I used org notes heavily through more than two school degrees, and loved it= . Definitely a sweet-spot in org use-cases. > * What I need You have a pretty comprehensive list of needs; that is a lot of useful info= rmation.=20 > > Secondly, I need a quick view on the week lessons schedule: For each day, > what lesson I have, when and where. I live in org agenda, even now. You can filter it by tag/keyword easily by = =3DC-c /=3D, removing filters with =3D|=3D (pipe). Don't forget to add your= class to the agenda list with =3Dorg-agenda-file-to-front=3D (C-x [) > > thirdly, I need to manage the projects that teachers ask us to do. With d= eadlines. Agenda is made for this. Just add a TODO to the headline =3DC-c C-t t=3D (o= rg-todo) #+DEADLINE: =3DC-c d=3D (org-deadline) timestamp and see it in you= r agenda. You can modify how the notifications come for it. Also, make libe= ral use of org tags =3Dorg-agenda-set-tags=3D on headings, which you can us= e to filter your agenda view (eg by class). > * What I plan to do > > As I need to write a lot for each lesson, and each lesson are mostly > independent from each other, I plan to have 1 file per lesson. This is a very stylistic, but I am a "all in one file" user, though I have = a seperate directory and .org file per class, but no more split than that. = I have always had =3DC-c s=3D bound in org files to something like =3Dconsu= lt-org-heading=3D (or the helm equivalent, or selectrum equivalent, or even= the vanilla emacs equivalent that I can't remember right now). To me, bein= g able to easily go to headings/classes in one file fits my usage. I could = see arguments for the other, though, since emacs is good at browsing/search= ing multiple files, too. And I suppose git version control might be more us= eful on the multiple-file setup.=20=20 > In each file, I plan to have the same structure: > - General information > - Tasks and Projects > - Distributed documents > - Notes > > In "General information", I put the schedule of the lesson, the > classroom, the teacher and assistant name and e-mail and the URL to our > online platform. #+URL, #+TEACHER, etc will be okay here. Though I would probably just put t= hem in as plain text. > In "Tasks and Projects", I put all work the teacher ask us to do. For > each, an Org-mode sub-headline with a TODO status. A project is just a ta= sk > with sub-tasks. Or maybe have a PROJECT status=C2=A0? > How about both? Are projects seperate from other tasks, though? I would mak= e heavy use of sub-tasks, with =3D[/]=3D in the headlines to give a count o= f sub-tasks completed. > In "Distributed documents", I create a sub-headline for each document. I > then attach a copy of the document to its sub-headline with org-attach. > Finally, I took note with Org-noter. I have not used org-attach, though I know I should learn it. I have just st= ored related docs in the folder for the class. > In "Notes" I make a tree of sub-headline based on the lesson plan. And, > when the teacher talk about a subject, I took a note in it's > sub-headline. > > > * What I miss > > First, the tasks. I don't know If it's better to keep them in the lesson > org file or move them with all my other tasks (home and work). I think > to include them in the org-agenda, so I can have global view of all ma > tasks. From school, work and home. I keep them in the class listing, then add that to my agenda, as described = above. Add the class to your agenda files and you are set.=20 > Second, the weekly schedule. Is it better to have a column view on a > separate file or to see the all the lessons in my org-agenda=C2=A0? In the > first case, is it possible to build a column view from different file=C2= =A0? > In the second case, how to do it and to manage vacations=C2=A0? Column view is another thing I have never intentionally used. I just filter= my agenda to what I want.=20 > Third, do I include my work notes inside the lesson file=C2=A0? Or do I > create a separate file for each works=C2=A0? Some work asked to do are ju= st > exercise, but some are rated and in this case we are asked to write a > report. As mentioned above, I find putting them in the same file to be most useful.= Even reports I put in the same file, using export to make them pdf or odt = or docx or whatever the class needs.=20 > Fourth, is it better to include my school notes into org-roam with other > knowledge or keep them separate=C2=A0? If I mix what I learn on my free t= ime > and what I learn on school time, it would make more to review before an > exam. I've been told that I should try org-roam. I never felt a need, though. Pla= in org does the trick for me. org for class notes was a huge benefit to my quality of life for a lot of y= ears, so I have some simple but opinionated takes on this. I hope this is u= seful, and I am always appreciative of any corrections. - Tory