I would like invisible table in Org mode

I would like invisible table in Org mode

[Jean Louis]

I would like native Org mode within Emacs to show me invisible table.

Is that possible?

Jean Louis

Re: I would like invisible table in Org mode

[William Denton]

On Saturday, December 21st, 2024 at 11:29, Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> wrote:

> I would like native Org mode within Emacs to show me invisible table.
> 
> Is that possible?

Can you explain more?  What do you mean by an invisible table?  


Cheers,

Bill

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Re: I would like invisible table in Org mode

[William Denton]

On Monday, December 23rd, 2024 at 01:45, Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> wrote:

> Instead of following:
> 
> | Column | | Column |
> |-----------------------+-----------+-------------------|
> | The dog is happy | | The dog is happy |
> | I am very happy | | I am very happy |
> | The dog is very happy | | The sun is bright |
> 
> To get following:
> 
> Column Column
> 
> The dog is happy The dog is happy
> I am very happy I am very happy
> The dog is very happy The sun is bright

There's no way in native Org to do that, and I've never seen any package or customization that would do that.  I have no idea if it's possible somehow, but it's a great idea.


Bill

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Re: I would like invisible table in Org mode

[Jean Louis]

* William Denton <william@williamdenton.org> [2024-12-23 20:21]:
> On Monday, December 23rd, 2024 at 01:45, Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> wrote:
> 
> > Instead of following:
> > 
> > | Column | | Column |
> > |-----------------------+-----------+-------------------|
> > | The dog is happy | | The dog is happy |
> > | I am very happy | | I am very happy |
> > | The dog is very happy | | The sun is bright |
> > 
> > To get following:
> > 
> > Column Column
> > 
> > The dog is happy The dog is happy
> > I am very happy I am very happy
> > The dog is very happy The sun is bright
> 
> There's no way in native Org to do that, and I've never seen any package or customization that would do that.  I have no idea if it's possible somehow, but it's a great idea.

Thanks. 

There is that invisible face, and of Org table has face then it could
be set invisible, but I think then whole table would disappear.

You can mark text and try M-x facemenu-set-invisible

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Jean Louis

Re: I would like invisible table in Org mode

[Ihor Radchenko]

Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> writes:

> I would like native Org mode within Emacs to show me invisible table.
>
> Is that possible?

Yes, why not?
If we make table fontification more granular in
`org-set-font-lock-defaults' and apply a separate face to | separators
in the table lines, that face could be set to `org-hide'.

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Re: I would like invisible table in Org mode

[Jean Louis]

* Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net> [2024-12-24 14:24]:
> Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> writes:
> 
> > I would like native Org mode within Emacs to show me invisible table.
> >
> > Is that possible?
> 
> Yes, why not?
> If we make table fontification more granular in
> `org-set-font-lock-defaults' and apply a separate face to | separators
> in the table lines, that face could be set to `org-hide'.

I think that Emacs' invisible face is actually hiding lines, so that
one is not suitable, probably not suitable for hiding of tables'
lines. As only tables character boxes or lines are to be hidden but
not their content.

That would optimize layouts for 2 columns, 3 columns, or more, better
utilizing the available screen space for presenting data.

I use Org mode daily for my dashboard, but it's quite lengthy and not
wide, basically half of Emacs and more than half on the right side is
empty. 

Lines of tables do not look as nice and I find it rather distracting
in cases where only the content is important.

-- 
Jean Louis

Re: I would like invisible table in Org mode

[Ihor Radchenko]

Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> writes:

>> Yes, why not?
>> If we make table fontification more granular in
>> `org-set-font-lock-defaults' and apply a separate face to | separators
>> in the table lines, that face could be set to `org-hide'.
>
> I think that Emacs' invisible face is actually hiding lines, so that
> one is not suitable, probably not suitable for hiding of tables'
> lines. As only tables character boxes or lines are to be hidden but
> not their content.

I was specifically talking about `org-hide' face. It is not an invisible
face. It simply makes foreground match background.

And I did not talk about applying it to the whole table rows. Just to
"|" separators.

> That would optimize layouts for 2 columns, 3 columns, or more, better
> utilizing the available screen space for presenting data.

Completely hiding text is possible. But please do it in third-party
packages.

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