From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Matt Lundin Subject: Re: [ANN] org-bibtex.el --- convert between Org headings and bibtex entries Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 09:19:29 -0400 Message-ID: <87wriiwjry.fsf@fastmail.fm> References: <87y6357q81.fsf@gmail.com> <027A8D96-05AB-452C-87D3-85D90D24AFB1@tsdye.com> <87vcy81xtv.fsf@gmail.com> <877hanwbyb.fsf@gmail.com> <89A178C3-C2E4-493D-BE84-12200512B766@tsdye.com> <87ei4sa3cz.fsf@fastmail.fm> <871v0rzp8v.fsf@gmail.com> <4DB4559E.8010309@christianmoe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:48580) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QELhN-0006br-Oj for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 09:19:34 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QELhM-0001bR-HF for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 09:19:33 -0400 Received: from out4.smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.28]:59003) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QELhM-0001bI-FF for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 09:19:32 -0400 In-Reply-To: <4DB4559E.8010309@christianmoe.com> (Christian Moe's message of "Sun, 24 Apr 2011 18:53:50 +0200") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: mail@christianmoe.com Cc: Org Mode Hi Eric and Christian, Christian Moe writes: > The *conclusion* (where Eric Schulte's new bibtex functions should go) > is not a big concern to me, but FWIW, the *premise* strikes me as > unnecessarily restrictive. > > I submit that, for any non-Org format or application "foo", the module > org-foo.el does not have to be restricted to providing an Org link > type for foo. It seems a sensible namespace for e.g. foo-Org/Org-foo > conversion functions as well. The fact that several modules so named > *at present* only provide link functionality does not, I think, amount > to a convention that this is all they should do. Christian, you are right. I stand corrected. I agree that the namespace can accommodate import/export/conversion features in addition to hyperlinking. Apologies (especially to Eric) for my wavering on where to put this. This functionality is indeed not a generic bib backend, but rather tightly integrated with bibtex-mode and the bibtex format. So a full +1 for adding this to org-bibtex.el. And that's my final answer... :) >> By packaging the new functionality separately perhaps we could lay the >> groundwork for internal, backend agnostic bibliographical export and >> formatting---not unlike the way in which org-contacts.el replaces bbdb. > > That's a great aim. Still, a future bibliography module (be it > "org-bib", "org-cite" or whatever) could just as well rely, for bits > of bibtex functionality, on some utilities packaged in org-bibtex. Agreed. Best, Matt