From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Bernt Hansen Subject: Re: Journal versus clock tables: Opposing requirements? Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2011 22:21:03 -0500 Message-ID: <87wrbbfgf4.fsf@norang.ca> References: <87hb2ggoju.fsf@norang.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:38614) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RNcFM-0005Ia-Ag for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2011 22:21:13 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RNcFL-0003cY-81 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2011 22:21:12 -0500 Received: from mho-03-ewr.mailhop.org ([204.13.248.66]:64712 helo=mho-01-ewr.mailhop.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RNcFK-0003cR-U1 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2011 22:21:11 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Tommy Kelly's message of "Mon, 7 Nov 2011 14:55:54 +0000") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Tommy Kelly Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Tommy Kelly writes: > Bernt wrote: >> For item 1) can you use the display of inactive timestamps to get part >> of the information you want in the agenda and then visit the items with >> either follow mode (F) or manually visit each item with SPC to get more >> detail? > > Thanks. That's pretty much exactly my workaround now. So I enter data > all over the place in my file, so as to preserve position with respect > to headings (so my clock table is correct). Therefore the only way to > get the journal-style output seems to be as you suggest. > > The problem is, at the end of the week, when I want to output a report > of what I did, it's a fairly manual task. It's true that even with a > chronological report I wouldn't necessarily leave the chronological > output as-is, with no editing or grouping. But it will be *much* > easier to get what I want if I can start with a simple linear-time > report of everything, than if I have to work my way through the weekly > agenda in follow mode. If you can manually create your report (even if it is tedious) then it should be possible to automate most of it. This is Emacs after all - you can program it to do whatever you need it to do. It should be possible to write code that walks your agenda, visits the tasks, and copies and pastes the details to a temporary org buffer/file just for your chronological report. I have no idea what that code would look like though... it depends on how often you require this weekly report if writing that code would be worth it or not. Regards, Bernt