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From: Bastien <bzg@gnu.org>
To: Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com>
Cc: public-emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ@plane.gmane.org,
	Sebastien Vauban
	<public-sva-news-D0wtAvR13HarG/iDocfnWg@plane.gmane.org>,
	Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Outline cycling does not preserve point's position
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2013 13:49:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wqmqjjut.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87li365ixg.fsf@gmail.com> (Nicolas Goaziou's message of "Mon, 09 Sep 2013 13:32:59 +0200")



Hi Nicolas,

Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com> writes:

>>> We could have org-ctrldown and friends the same way we have org-shift*
>>> commands.  org-ctrldown would use `org-forward-element' when on some
>>> Org element, and `forward-paragraph' elsewhere.
>
> "elsewhere" doesn't make sense here since point is _always_ on an element
> (except on the first blank lines in a buffer).

Right.  

But you got the idea: use `org-forward-element' when moving
within structural elements of various kinds make sense and use
`forward-paragraph' otherwise.

>>> I acknowledge binding C-down to `org-forward-element' instead of
>>> `forward-paragraph' is a bit disruptive, and maybe not ideal in all
>>> situations.
>>
>> Yes, it produces unexpected results.
>
> I find it pretty predictable. May you elaborate on that?

It is predictable, but sometimes counter-intuitive: for example, when
on the first headline, C-up will throw an error instead of moving to
the top of the buffer.

Also, it is predictable but not reversible: hitting C-down three times
then C-up three times will not always go back to the point where the
user was at the beginning.

-- 
 Bastien

  reply	other threads:[~2013-09-09 11:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-07 12:11 Outline cycling does not preserve point's position Sebastien Vauban
2013-09-07 14:17 ` Carsten Dominik
     [not found]   ` <BED1FBAA-8BB5-45D6-8328-11C0BB2DF015-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-07 19:28     ` Sebastien Vauban
2013-09-08  6:16       ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-09  7:57         ` Sebastien Vauban
2013-09-08 11:03       ` Eric Schulte
2013-09-09  8:39         ` Sebastien Vauban
2013-09-08 16:23       ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-09  8:11         ` Sebastien Vauban
2013-09-09  8:13           ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-09  8:23             ` Sebastien Vauban
2013-09-09  8:27               ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-09  8:33                 ` Sebastien Vauban
2013-09-09  8:38                   ` Bastien
2013-09-09  9:05                     ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-09 11:32                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-09 11:49                         ` Bastien [this message]
2013-09-09 15:27                           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-09 14:23                         ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-09 15:16                           ` Jambunathan K
2013-09-09 15:41                           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-09 17:42                             ` Sebastien Vauban
2013-09-10  3:47                             ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-10  6:03                               ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-10  6:48                                 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2013-09-10  7:32                                 ` Suvayu Ali
2013-09-10  7:53                                   ` Suvayu Ali
2013-09-10  7:58                                     ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-10  8:16                                       ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-10  8:50                                         ` Suvayu Ali
2013-09-10  9:02                                           ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-10  9:50                                             ` Suvayu Ali
2013-09-10 16:33                                               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-10 18:35                                                 ` Jambunathan K
2013-09-10 18:39                                                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-10 19:22                                                     ` Jambunathan K
2013-09-10 19:40                                                       ` Jambunathan K
2013-09-10 19:52                                                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-10 18:58                                                 ` Suvayu Ali
2013-09-10 19:07                                                   ` Suvayu Ali
2013-09-10 19:48                                                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-10 20:13                                                     ` Suvayu Ali
2013-09-10 20:29                                                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-10 21:08                                                     ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-11 12:24                                                       ` Suvayu Ali
2013-09-12  6:54                                                         ` Jambunathan K
2013-09-12  9:11                                                           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-12  9:28                                                             ` Jambunathan K
2013-09-12  9:47                                                               ` Suvayu Ali
2013-09-11  2:49                                                     ` Jambunathan K
2013-09-11 11:09                                                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-11 11:34                                                         ` Jambunathan K
2013-09-11 15:19                                                           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-11 15:40                                                             ` Jambunathan K
2013-09-11 15:31                                                         ` Jambunathan K
2013-09-11 15:40                                                           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-11 16:14                                                             ` Jambunathan K
2013-09-11 20:01                                                               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-11 22:11                                                                 ` Suvayu Ali
2013-09-12  6:43                                                                 ` Jambunathan K
2013-09-12  9:07                                                                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-12 10:12                                                                     ` Jambunathan K
2013-09-12  7:17                                                                 ` Sebastien Vauban
2013-09-13 10:57                                                                 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-13 22:29                                                                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-14  5:33                                                                     ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-14 17:16                                                                     ` Suvayu Ali
2013-09-15  4:39                                                                       ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-10 20:16                                         ` Samuel Wales
2013-09-10  5:06                             ` Jambunathan K
2013-09-11  3:57                             ` Jambunathan K
2013-09-11 15:47                               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-09  8:38                   ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-09 11:30                     ` Nicolas Goaziou

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