From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id 0L2YLvKyUF80bgAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 03 Sep 2020 09:10:10 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id 2DWBKvKyUF8QVgAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 03 Sep 2020 09:10:10 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 19A4C9403C8 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 2020 09:10:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:35362 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kDlFw-0001XP-Pw for larch@yhetil.org; Thu, 03 Sep 2020 05:10:08 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34112) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kDlFU-0001V2-Tt for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Sep 2020 05:09:40 -0400 Received: from relay5-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.197]:49899) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kDlFS-0006OL-Gq for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Sep 2020 05:09:40 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 185.131.40.67 Received: from localhost (40-67.ipv4.commingeshautdebit.fr [185.131.40.67]) (Authenticated sender: admin@nicolasgoaziou.fr) by relay5-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1CAD31C000E; Thu, 3 Sep 2020 09:09:32 +0000 (UTC) From: Nicolas Goaziou To: Eric Abrahamsen Subject: Re: Putting the value of page-delimiter in some outline regexps? References: <877dtcakrb.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Mail-Followup-To: Eric Abrahamsen , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2020 11:09:31 +0200 In-Reply-To: <877dtcakrb.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Tue, 01 Sep 2020 21:02:48 -0700") Message-ID: <87wo1bw7jo.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.70.183.197; envelope-from=mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr; helo=relay5-d.mail.gandi.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/03 05:09:33 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.01 X-TUID: PDY/T9LrUXAn Hello, Eric Abrahamsen writes: > I've been trying to find a way to cordon off the bottom of my Org files, > to create an area for file-local variables and "LocalWords" and what > have you that Org doesn't consider part of the file's final heading. > > The usual Emacs thing to do seems to be using the value of > page-delimiter to demarcate the end of content, and the beginning of > meta data. I stuck that into the value of `org-outline-regexp', and also > hard-coded it into the "true heading" branch of `org-end-of-subtree'. > Over the past day this has worked fine for interactive use, and some > automatic Org-based tools. But I'm not so naive as to think that > catastrophic breakage couldn't be right around the corner as a result of > this! > > Anyway, I wanted to see if anyone else had tried this, or had any ideas > about it. I think Org already puts some care into preserving file-local variables at the end of the buffer, e.g., when moving around headlines. Maybe the issues you're encountering can be fixed the same way. Adding page delimiter in `org-outline-regexp' is clearly not subtle enough in any case, as it would affect every headline, not only the last one in the buffer. Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou