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[106.69.142.148]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id g9sm3654039pgm.79.2020.10.16.15.46.10 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 16 Oct 2020 15:46:11 -0700 (PDT) References: User-agent: mu4e 1.5.5; emacs 28.0.50 From: Tim Cross To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Subject: Re: should be In-reply-to: Message-ID: <87wnzpyekv.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2020 09:46:08 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::42c; envelope-from=theophilusx@gmail.com; helo=mail-pf1-x42c.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=O/jCaA4w; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.71 X-TUID: emJxRq5E/PZw This one is a little 'tricky'. The tag means emphasis and is not the same as underline (browsers are free to 'interpret' emphasis as anything which will emphasise the text from surrounding text, which could be bold, italic, underline or a combination. If we changed underline to tags, I'm sure we would get a post about text not being underlined in html export. There use to be a tag for underline, but that has been replaced by 'unarticulated text' and it is recommended to now use CSS text decoration properties to do underline. On the other hand, I don't think Emacs' EWW/shr support the CSS text decoration properties, so I'm not sure if you will get underlined text when viewing org HTML in Emacs EWW. The real challenge here is in how to map org mode specific attributes such as italic, underline and bold to HTML's semantic tags of , etc. In hindsight, it probably would have been better for org to have used sematnic markup types, leaving it to each exporter to interpret how the different semantic types map to character types. One solution could be to make all of them CSS classes, have a default CSS for italic, bold, underline, code etc. Users could then add their own CSS to render each as they preferred when not happy with the defaults. Pankaj Jangid writes: > For this org mode text: > > #+begin_src org > - This text is /emphasized/ > - This text is *in bold* > - This text is _underlined_ > - This text uses =a teletype font= > #+end_src > > the follow is the HTML output: > > #+begin_src >
    >
  • This text is emphasized
    • >
  • This text is in bold
    • >
  • This text is underlined
    • >
  • This text uses a teletype font
    • >
> #+end_src > > In case of /italics/, CSS class is used whereas for other formatting > cases native HTML elements are used. Shouldn't the _underline_ be > converted into tags? > > Regards -- Tim Cross