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[180.150.91.8]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j3sm18937147pjs.50.2020.12.14.10.19.41 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 14 Dec 2020 10:19:42 -0800 (PST) References: <87o8kf69tm.fsf@ucc.asn.au> <87v9d66l75.fsf@gmail.com> <87a6ugpftr.fsf@gmail.com> <877dpkpefs.fsf@gmail.com> <873608pai7.fsf@gmail.com> <20201214180549.GE6352@maokai> User-agent: mu4e 1.4.13; emacs 27.1 From: TEC To: Russell Adams Subject: Re: Emacs as an Org LSP server Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 02:12:43 +0800 In-reply-to: <20201214180549.GE6352@maokai> Message-ID: <87wnxkntc4.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::52d; envelope-from=tecosaur@gmail.com; helo=mail-pg1-x52d.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.01 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=fSpcI+hw; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: A31AE9403EB X-Spam-Score: -3.01 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: /hN36iMCeiUP Russell Adams writes: > REST API calls to a remote server as a core part of editing text in > your editor isn't concerning? How remote? How would you know? If they > use HTTPS could you even see what is sent? I'm not concerned about REST API calls to a remote server, because: 1. There are no REST API calls 2. There is no remote server > Microsoft doesn't make standards that it can't corrupt or take > advantage of. See LDAP/AD, HTML extensions, programming language > extensions that makes their solutions incompatible with standards. Sure, but I can choose not to support a certain standard, as can other LSP-Client/Server FLOSS devs, and you can install a particular version of either. > REST = web server. Using to make JSON requests over what you are > editing and your editor requiring the ability to send/receive to a > potential remote web server is a valid concern. No REST, just JSON-RPC, which is just a data format. I don't think JSON is evil. Oh, and once again, no web servers. > Emacs daemon is a local socket interface (by default) for > communication between processes on the same box. Yep, like LSP. Hence the analogy. > [ MS Taint ] I'm a stats student, so if you'll excuse the slightly odd perspective, I see the chance of MS being dodgy as a bayesian process. Previous knowledge creates an informed prior. It does not allow you to make conclusions without examining each instance on a case-by-case basis, only predictions. To do otherwise is to commit the genetic fallacy. -- Timothy