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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Tim Cross , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Ihor Radchenko Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=2; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1639048001; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=zUwI/FMlXTelB2x8oF/hgQbQit2H1CY2xoEm4uMbnnU=; b=fZctQOiIKcdVkbtCUXtFGc6vJTDb0sTHtrsRp/hNjddviMZmXGYXV1LcwGX263MwfPBqOb 7vR1et9IU2L/UEzBlFLmWzB7JMWOQzH9B0AnEr21/MATqj6SNoXm+jzwagx4d00o6v8nwj XcegQ5ipY/1yXzfhYkiWpQjk/tn7mvprVrRpsh5Xn3iD+fiKyWGgpnjaRzuCCEqgjCx0fM fi/jYkAPKzJPsjaN5aQLShR2fEOWE9+pNerH+8bvinVtwW26KHIGhh9GmIhec0QuolN4k1 nrRIFL0xJdT+3w489fr8j94322oBr3I81mNCAERtg2eFwAbVGB2dQvDS09Y2KQ== ARC-Seal: i=2; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1639048001; a=rsa-sha256; cv=pass; b=i18Xm1G+MwEEuR8+3yBI33Faqi8Iq88rbLI6K9yN6Fc5mf+4Yjh76zodbNKppJuHWaSbiu LFXKWgblPdVye9B0+sh1/NuGYMF1kf3Obi+DD3YEpp5hTK+UCPojPT/Anq+yuJVcOrV+6S rOtjVnfUqsmKLqiOnkddVgbWHPSiym3R95H/P/XMJVCKVq+nwqYcE42z/F3OdKrlSw5K85 Hg8VWJfqcnrWpo/YyQSaVNDNc4BdmVhCUFpiVnOocz6IRpHgCzECsLEGj3/7xvPuUNEgoN teiPZdvT/O6qRZrIQwQgNiLiVjUENvU2MvqXmIxrtnJ4aHOXp8x6NEbw+SLVUg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=2; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=ucl.ac.uk header.s=selector1 header.b=lW94hKzu; arc=pass ("microsoft.com:s=arcselector9901:i=1"); dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=ucl.ac.uk; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -6.15 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=ucl.ac.uk header.s=selector1 header.b=lW94hKzu; arc=pass ("microsoft.com:s=arcselector9901:i=1"); dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=ucl.ac.uk; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 61BAA2FF52 X-Spam-Score: -6.15 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: J1Oma3aZv0kl On Wednesday, 8 Dec 2021 at 17:16, Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > If you have 1400 slides of lectures, all carefully laid out to convey Been there, done that. =F0=9F=98=9E I've learned to not upgrade org (or Ema= cs) for a few weeks before the start of term! I am a big fan of backwards compatibility but not if it becomes a stranglehold on significant improvements. Org v8 in particular was a major step forward but broke many of my org files. I was happy with the trade-off: immediate pain but much better basis for future developments. --=20 : Eric S Fraga, with org release_9.5.1-254-g14ed65 in Emacs 29.0.50 : Latest paper written in org: https://arxiv.org/abs/2106.05096