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But, to be honest, anything is fine with me, as long as it is readily avail= able and documented. Thank you! Dominik =E2=80=9CBruce D=E2=80=99Arcus=E2=80=9D writes: > On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 6:04 PM Nicolas Goaziou = wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> =E2=80=9CBruce D=E2=80=99Arcus=E2=80=9D writes: >> >> > On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 5:27 PM Nicolas Goaziou wrote: >> >> >> I can add it, but =E2=80=9Cfull=E2=80=9D is already the name of a var= iant, so >> >> [cite/full: =E2=80=A6] and [cite/style/full: =E2=80=A6] would mean di= fferent things. >> >> Is this a problem, or do you think of a better style name? >> > >> > FWIW, Nicolas, biblatex =E2=80=9Cfullcite=E2=80=9D is equivalent to na= tbib/bibtex =E2=80=9Cbibentry=E2=80=9D. >> > >> > That might be a reasonable alternative style name? >> > >> >> Also, are there possible variants for this style? >> > >> > AFAIK, no. >> >> Hmm, OK. What about: >> >> (=E2=80=9Cfullcite=E2=80=9D nil =E2=80=9Cfullcite=E2=80=9D nil nil) >> >> ? > > Seems fine by me, so long as you use the same name for natbib if and > when you add bibentry support? > > Bruce --=-=-=--