From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp11.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms5.migadu.com with LMTPS id gG97OlnsaGLtKAEAbAwnHQ (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2022 09:10:18 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp11.migadu.com with LMTPS id 2PmnOlnsaGLwEwEA9RJhRA (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2022 09:10:17 +0200 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 43E723876E for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2022 09:10:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:52300 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1njboW-0000Ou-8C for larch@yhetil.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2022 03:10:16 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42428) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1njbmo-0000Nv-MI for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2022 03:08:32 -0400 Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]:59965) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1njbml-0002Cp-Cx for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2022 03:08:29 -0400 Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 20B0F240029 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2022 09:08:24 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1651043305; bh=FHjr4UAZT8sb43keYGOQUiuZuZxyuOqOimrOfL3W4jY=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:From; b=Ml6UpH2Lw3wug0nqctfBzeQ8lQKblm8HuRS4mCIn/dsw27vUM164HOJK+hmUAYt/x H0Is+HG81fnjqe37e1KmuysbpO7dYnW0yFmDFNBHz0NXJV/04D1sfaZ0XqF+GkXk8Y VUKUuf04aYr/7+lEP5uRK1yvMiQlgSW76YEmyokpYQGq+1KNd66f3uqQyniiwRkVzU /wrqqOiFdnkwDCqk3WeM3HK7ksPHeJTyy9gTiDOt3Sz23EvL6oc23b0AllhlXspzbU WG3YRIPdvtUUc7IdQ4j5FiQs+igIf5EnLO+kdI0SfldSMlGONkMDVAM38bExvA85Q/ gWDKtDL8N2UBw== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4Kp8wm30vLz6tnC; Wed, 27 Apr 2022 09:08:24 +0200 (CEST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Juan_Manuel_Mac=C3=ADas?= To: Ihor Radchenko Subject: Re: [tip] Org speed commands improved References: <87pml4lzb4.fsf@posteo.net> <87zgk7upgw.fsf@localhost> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2022 07:08:31 +0000 In-Reply-To: <87zgk7upgw.fsf@localhost> (Ihor Radchenko's message of "Wed, 27 Apr 2022 12:20:31 +0800") Message-ID: <87wnfbovf4.fsf@posteo.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=maciaschain@posteo.net; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: orgmode Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1651043417; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=JyW/aXJw86xSfSOe4GRyjq9yI+pnzL4ghPiIrY7zFvo=; b=I+eTK7y2S5JpIqhzM5bXtWyF5WzBWjjYHCWyayL91GHlDCkoiEqN2PdGXkvccEE6Wjop5Q rv/8rwiMvswU+yCaIA59CbtEJVct39pUVqaJqqeAw5zDF9xwIpZuJxwjhb3l4iCcB6Jg6n 2fveEZ9aEmOutsMvURmpaBQbLNr+ZVzEjfy4Wdj4rel3sGaYcD475M6m+GKyisrvwHvOy1 DAO05dQ9Ix/Bvhu8uzlahVKGQFDZZ99KDx5X9iCZe56bWZ6AkVQKmEx8hjJpivKjP3Do6a d0NUcB0CnqplHslIQR/VJ2q3YS0e/ojJB1ZzZWiGpDrQXPpc/2MmwIdbAFjtqQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1651043417; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=Ijvk8u+leQyS8OKrQKYMSzYHPSAhX/EQo5MS1k6AegBvWaZsYyPrfV0KB7AABeJ7ih+ne4 7gw5ci6Oy5Ym4eVdPyy3sOm7WFq5l8FzkIPRrc3jyaNgYc2V6iC4OvN5EX+ySpbHIA11MA OlhKey7Ei0eKU8aRxam9EWe8Z1VswbAf5UcMg9+xDlFeG1K3HiblbPcWGyjR351gAj6lr3 4NebyKRe1s4Z2WOgrISSRFhPB0i56HxEaJUcmBdmRIDUVQb+RXLD1dfooQrLdIVwjudBa6 uQ4synJdroSSmXFwat0MamM48mJwDddaEVuDeqXk/WR9vc2X3vSQt/uZkwayPA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=posteo.net header.s=2017 header.b=Ml6UpH2L; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=posteo.net; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -6.01 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=posteo.net header.s=2017 header.b=Ml6UpH2L; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=posteo.net; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 43E723876E X-Spam-Score: -6.01 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: NtKxSAxcs3Vu Hi Ihor, Ihor Radchenko writes: > If you are going this far with speed commands, you might as well switch > to modal editing. What you are describing is basically a modal command > map with ability to switch to insert map. I'm not a fan of modal editing, rather the opposite. But in this particular case I have found that I spend very little time editing the raw content of the headers, once I set it. I spend more time editing the 'meta-content': TODO states, properties, tags, refile, attached folders, etc. And that with the speed commands can be achieved in a very agile way, so that a small dose of controlled modal editing and reduced only to the header, maybe it's worth it :-) If the speed commands were also activated in the content of the sections, here we would have a real modal editing, and that (in my case) would not be comfortable. Best regards, Juan Manuel