From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp10.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms5.migadu.com with LMTPS id UHefNAwGsWLi7QAAbAwnHQ (envelope-from ) for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2022 01:43:08 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp10.migadu.com with LMTPS id uNGhMwwGsWIptAAAG6o9tA (envelope-from ) for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2022 01:43:08 +0200 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5B50F3AE98 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2022 01:43:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:39928 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o3R2x-0001n3-9i for larch@yhetil.org; Mon, 20 Jun 2022 19:43:07 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46862) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o3R1G-0001m5-N0 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jun 2022 19:41:26 -0400 Received: from mail-pl1-x62a.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::62a]:43896) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o3R1D-0001XK-KA for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jun 2022 19:41:22 -0400 Received: by mail-pl1-x62a.google.com with SMTP id r1so11013342plo.10 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2022 16:41:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=references:user-agent:from:to:subject:date:in-reply-to:message-id :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=3hD4nZhop8ilcpyVmKvjsTcww0YVqRkV3otEd2sl1qw=; b=Zqx/ELUFpruaFyw8fHi0U8Iaovbly+SWLh2lxS6icbJ7A+H++wkYanFv17fnWoZzFm thvSmJWhQu3Zzwl9zaRwR+rueL74Y/sZVAOlyUHs2LTzKxrkMCiw55SCzHilhfEk5FyZ WCSQXnAPm8sMFbzetmkzY4/qibqmt8WNbtnJjIBOJzcY8j2mj6rhHS7qGA6X2CM8L6lR O1v3QucLaiGV0jHqWJ6Zqh+Ztope1SGBsGiKzIaEdap0nDVVTTceiwpBvF4L1HGWviAJ QRDKegCuAvrXU4Q4CQ4PvVmANe0z5HzQP5+ET4gekzeZIuWGgAyNHTbaFGZAUp/f9aw7 8ylA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:references:user-agent:from:to:subject:date :in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=3hD4nZhop8ilcpyVmKvjsTcww0YVqRkV3otEd2sl1qw=; b=7kQLV8hfYNRkOpq9uOb8MLtVv2DZbljfGiqOPu1/lJ3tXCdpizTPJF3NyIFMx/R6JZ 2bSzB5sviprYsEcVx6NO0/i/kZeRMaLhIKYzC23KHQPUqiNmi7lc9EWX+g/6xr8sBDv3 yeo9c7UQjEvIfRIMpnlEAh2zFfLUy9ZRF39KbBhlgSvx6+Z2sZylNZAFH7aENIK6WWia TI13Ob57JEBxaInt+MBKOStbl+47k5rGO02VugGD0twafXG9ci4j4aPkeFUgfQ9fhYfb anWw3n6mfZxW3CjCfw6qG+iWPomQ2KUyI9S+BLrQQj8JZineZKK8nu1YChW/Oo4d253X 4/BA== X-Gm-Message-State: AJIora/u/ic4goyp2ppEoAQV3IeghVM0u2zWGh1C/Yrbw1+S2TqafIRJ eJ2zxdSWFNc35mkYdklj6jjTtaGc7lKt9w== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGRyM1tSurmJ0ll9xN5SuJp8DiR8Rw/na5Wj5aNNfv6POshRB7DrbRZ+w21YX2h6WCETKI7XY0k/CQ== X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:f688:b0:16a:1dfe:9712 with SMTP id l8-20020a170902f68800b0016a1dfe9712mr9640785plg.112.1655768477848; Mon, 20 Jun 2022 16:41:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dingbat (2001-44b8-31f2-bb00-8786-07be-b1fd-6573.static.ipv6.internode.on.net. [2001:44b8:31f2:bb00:8786:7be:b1fd:6573]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v7-20020aa78507000000b00525135bd555sm5194343pfn.162.2022.06.20.16.41.16 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 20 Jun 2022 16:41:17 -0700 (PDT) References: <875ykvbffg.fsf@posteo.net> User-agent: mu4e 1.7.28; emacs 28.1.50 From: Tim Cross To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Subject: Re: Org and Hyperbole Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2022 09:37:20 +1000 In-reply-to: Message-ID: <87wndanbrz.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::62a; envelope-from=theophilusx@gmail.com; helo=mail-pl1-x62a.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1655768588; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=3hD4nZhop8ilcpyVmKvjsTcww0YVqRkV3otEd2sl1qw=; b=ReMZlMdErwWVcXaLcDTVNHrnXIhSSTq/UKvPs+cmhWDRz8ujHzUHzWftHMnI2j84H+63LS Zej08wFbN694I+JL9zjgz4XCSOsGnlnAMtSunEQCSLyIsU1vdAsK9+/k+MTTVDe7O5rb/7 inCAnvJITC9FNE90bdEkKoQk/joIADOvpgTnVyno3/lj3LlohakNXjCeKxgDC1SzLmX2KV Q/nxCU6hg7vC3twOcozCVBbFHrIQmdLgricoAosmrDv3TeA3JiCb7+ic73DxWaLynlWGUP WL40oqUKlUE6asMcdTFmt5UimvLmZ2b3hHIaC/sQqQEKH5YKCP7mNwNJm9uMPA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1655768588; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=F5V9Kw0+7JAW1NNg9QzD8/XZiA2GhuHIPqUhEsPdyEhjTgrBJrMQxYB2XZqJjqoOxGY2Mi RaZlkIoiHgxMZ3GtCZBsEmtsfXRjMTogR0QlgbQzpS0fHCKjscaaydr71IZ8nB2U7I5P75 mcBB/A5xI8i1xu2C/t6JbW2f8pL6CWlbsYLei6mFzD1anYUeDuxvoqbNokHgnnuJaYPExW y9nbhAiGeCCli/148Dcvo4yY/s9x7PJyMvkVJ6ecuOfqXZKYhLmaUGuBp4i4tDJkj+fWYj +te5XIHv2KLACdfvMP91ex/bvShf6twDsKJUoiZqaijbIa0u3t0A8VGptLGXbw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b="Zqx/ELUF"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.97 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b="Zqx/ELUF"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 5B50F3AE98 X-Spam-Score: -3.97 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: p6ysqd2P/AN9 Russell Adams writes: > On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 02:03:15PM +0000, Juan Manuel Mac=C3=ADas wrote: >> I've been intrigued with GNU Hyperbole for a while. I'm reading the >> documentation and trying it out a bit. It seems that its button system >> is very powerful. But Org links are also powerful (and exportable), and >> can be extended outside of Org docs. It seems that hyperbole offers some >> cool stuff that Org also has. And other things that are not in Org. I >> find some parts a bit confusing. I wonder if anyone is using hyperbole >> with Org and can put here some minimal workflow example where both >> complement each other in some way. Just in case I'm missing something >> useful... > > Juan, > > I've often wondered the same thing. I've looked at Hyperbole several > times. They have been great at advertising when a new release > occurs. Yet I find that I can't really find a useful feature in it > that I don't get from Org-mode. > > Is there some keen feature I'm missing? What's the use case for > Hyperbole if you're already an Org-mode user? > > https://www.adamsinfoserv.com/ My experiences with it mirror yours. It looked interesting and there were some ideas which sounded interesting, but when I came to use it, I found little, if anything, which didn't have a close equivalence in org mode and many things in org mode which it did not have.=20 In the end, it came down to asking myself do I really want yet another information management framework in my life and the answer was no. I do vaguely recall (it was a while ago) there were some ideas I thought would be good to add to org mode though. Unfortunately, I cannot recall the details now.=20