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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1662310148; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=3WdtdpRWR+FHO49rg0/Bh6RYsyAtnwH04ziYLCwYAHE=; b=A8O3lPuzbQJtVNyelA0HzvCa8JW9IwKoSGqVhLKMvvrf4m/NdWcBMaSmF8STMz+LDVK8uE 8fUkIT3qas+XAw3D++3klDBB/11KxaUnU64b3oX6dUw968MFU6C6bM2jAwRAVtPGnMLe4R 3ZlbY3ew21a60R8CCbkChue2a7/MhtQjKbyTfRLc+C+mWsRwyMw+QpdaUnHP6v5izgdWGO mJa5BO7ZVC3rQzF93zJxa3ZqsOAHzSB1EsinYy2k1HQ1xvadSODNhzminCINu+Aj36uw9T wXNRgdU2r/boVSW/adkqOH1uPoePvOlZrgnhiOoxHtpj72Lvox0clA0BnPkiHw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1662310148; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=d5Al354uVbXOqQATesAocVzFIx8YJTOYle/1ZPHWm2/h081t/gCwJYssp4vp8mm/PXCtdH 1AZqAfUNOn3A9xOL3JvY4LVV0nF6t0dTiEuhG2l4Qn2pLNaAHkgcdmGzFY80aEO3xML5Yv DeTbvHURaVg8qikpPQYfZh17OS3Rsj52j/3MF1vgDmnil2sMRqcQPzXZ/lS2AX+jB78g9R eWUdMRtCEN+eRvhkNMKBeilpClHKetmEipgDshIPoHeIQ7w+pJ+EkMPXW2HjXXdl1DgZUk k3NNJJjJaULE0a6TPMqYPJF+Ztd2E4roNM9ApgBqABxrUJZsIf5Uy5obeJzA2Q== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=plus.com header.s=042019 header.b=V70lOrhN; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.38 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=plus.com header.s=042019 header.b=V70lOrhN; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 7908928598 X-Spam-Score: -3.38 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: w3McSvHnFS/c =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Ihor Radchenko writes: > Sharon Kimble writes: > >>> Can you please check if you are using some third-party package that are >>> modifying the buffer on save? >> >> I've found this, but I don't know if this is what you're meaning? >> >> =3D=3D=3D=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 >> #+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp >> (defun force-backup-of-buffer () >> (setq buffer-backed-up nil)) >> >> (add-hook 'before-save-hook 'force-backup-of-buffer) >> #+END_SRC >> [2017-02-07 Tue 05:46] >> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6916529/how-can-i-make-emacs-backup-e= very-time-i-save >> http://www.tonyballantyne.com/EmacsWritingTips.html >> =3D=3D=3D=20 >> >> If this isn't the cause of the problem, can you give me any hints as to = what I should be looking for please? > > This should not be culprit. > > You can then try: > 1. Run clean Emacs version by running "make repro" from Org repository > and try to reproduce the issue. This created a new instance of emacs, which showed this in its '*compile-lo= g*' - =3D=3D=3D=20=20=20=20=20 lisp/org-macs.el: Warning: =E2=80=98buffer-string=E2=80=99 is an obsolete g= eneralized variable. lisp/org-macs.el: Warning: =E2=80=98buffer-string=E2=80=99 is an obsolete g= eneralized variable. lisp/org.el: Warning: =E2=80=98buffer-substring=E2=80=99 is an obsolete gen= eralized variable. =3D=3D=3D and also - =3D=3D=3D=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. Org mode version 9.5.5 (release_9.5.5-756-g1f1d8f.dirty @ /home/boudiccas/g= it/org-mode/lisp/) Mark set Beginning of buffer [4 times] =3D=3D=3D =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 > 2. If you cannot reproduce, you can try to bisect your config using > https://github.com/Malabarba/elisp-bug-hunter > Also, see > https://open.tube/videos/watch/4d819114-43bf-42df-af94-f94fc53dd0d9 I used 'bug-hunter-file' on my main config and also my init file and it fou= nd no problems with either. 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