From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Dan Davison Subject: Re: Embedding org-syntax in program source Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 11:22:47 -0400 Message-ID: <87vdbu3vp4.fsf@stats.ox.ac.uk> References: <871vejjsps.fsf@gmail.com> <87k4sbrqdf.fsf@stats.ox.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1O24Qa-0002rd-4d for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 11:22:56 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=46886 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O24QY-0002rP-UE for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 11:22:55 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O24QV-0007JV-Mn for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 11:22:54 -0400 Received: from markov.stats.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.210.1]:48077) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O24QV-0007J0-D0 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Apr 2010 11:22:51 -0400 In-Reply-To: (LanX's message of "Wed, 14 Apr 2010 01:54:13 +0200") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: LanX Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org LanX writes: > Hi Dan > =C2=A0 > > > Right. Given the present forum I presume you are using emacs, so that > shouldn't be a problem per se? > > > Well, don't you think that telling other people that changing the _source= _-code > requires emacs might be a problem? Hi Rolf, Yes I agree that this is something to think about. I mean, obviously *they* can change it easily, but incorporating their edits to tangled output back into your (version-controlled) source org file isn't so easy. Best wishes, Dan > =C2=A0 > > > I think you may have formed an inaccurate idea of how people are work= ing > with source code in org-mode. > > > maybe... and I have to admit my knowledge of LP is theoretical (but at le= ast I > investigated=C2=A0 the sources of TeX long ago! :) > > my idea for the beginning was to extend my codes with org-modes folding, > linking and some TODO features in perl comments. Maybe automatically swit= ching > the mode when the cursor is entering/leaving comments. > > Multiline wouldn't be a problem since I can include them in POD (perl's > simplified approach to LP) > > or I could embrace them in heredocs, for instance the following is legal > perlcode as long as the last line is empty (no whitespaces allowed). > > <<; > * block1 > ** [test] bla > > > > > And relying on an extra step for code generation is dangerous... > > You would have to explain that assertion.=C2=A0 > > =C2=A0 > Sorry, no offence intended, this is the common sense of perlmonks when ta= lking > about run time code generation and adding extra dependencies. (Maybe not = the > appropriate slang here...) > > I wouldn't find many to join my projects when relying on extra make files= and I > suppose running emacs in batch mode to tangle the code is not that stable. > =C2=A0 >> This is for sure acceptable with elisp or multilanguage projects. > > > I didn't understand this. > > > emacs is a natural habitat of elisp , like unix is one for C. > > And multilanguage projects would naturally rely on some make mechanisms. > > > =C2=A0 > > > PS: I forgot to mention that when switching to other modes the > highlighting > > will also get confused and fly-make will report plenty of syntax > problems. > > I'm not sure what you mean here. When working with code in org-mode, = one > uses C-c ' to switch to a language major-mode buffer containing the b= ody > of the source code block. Is that working OK for you? > > > hm, yes ...but if I do this I could equally embrace all org-mode-stuff in > between "=3Dpod"-lines or prepend a # to each line when switching to cper= l-mode. > > Hooking this to save would guaranty to always have legal perlcode... > > bye > =C2=A0 Rolf