From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Matt Lundin Subject: Re: [OT] retrieving old messages [WAS] Re: [Babel] Handling of errors when using Ledger Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 21:34:32 -0500 Message-ID: <87vd3glux3.fsf@fastmail.fm> References: <877hhudxor.fsf@mundaneum.com> <87sk0inmys.fsf@stats.ox.ac.uk> <807hhnfaix.fsf@mundaneum.com> <87mxqiv7q3.wl%ucecesf@ucl.ac.uk> <87lj4hnpid.fsf@gollum.intra.norang.ca> <87lj4h2k53.fsf_-_@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=44501 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PMtZb-0003IC-Ic for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 21:34:36 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PMtZa-00028j-37 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 21:34:35 -0500 Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.25]:34493) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PMtZa-00028f-0d for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 21:34:34 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87lj4h2k53.fsf_-_@gmail.com> (Dan Davison's message of "Thu, 25 Nov 2010 21:00:56 +0000") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Dan Davison Cc: Bernt Hansen , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Dan Davison writes: > Bernt Hansen writes: > >> Dan writes: >> >>> Incidentally, can any gnus users tell me -- is there a non-painful way = of >>> retrieving an old message from nntp in order to create a reply in the c= orrect >>> thread? Or do you hack the headers to make it appear in the right threa= d? I'm >>> using the gmane web interface to send this. >> >> I read the list through gnus and gmane. When I'm in the summary buffer >> for the org-mode list I can retrieve old messages with >> >> / O 500 RET >> >> to get the last 500 messages from the list. > > Thanks Bernt and Seb, but that was the route I was referring to when I > said "painful" :) The list volume is quite high, and retrieving > thousands of messages takes a while. And of course you go for 1500 and > it turns out to be message 1728... > > It seems a rather primitive practice, can we really not do better? Is it > not possible to use a unique identifier to pull down a specific message? > (I was not reading usenet or whatever it was called in the 1980s; I > don't really know anything about these technologies.) FWIW, recent changes nnir (in nognus and development Emacs) allow for easy searching of individual Gmane groups. Simply type "G G" on the org-mode group in the in the Group buffer or call gnus-group-make-nnir-group from within the summary buffer or an article. I typed M-x gnus-group-make-nnir-group while editing this message, entered "gnus painful" and received the following summary buffer (limited to the org-mode list) in less than a second: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- . 27-Sep: Bernt Hansen - [85: gmane.emacs.orgmode/3394] Wish list: Sto= ring links and enabling MIME actions on files . 27-Sep: Carsten Dominik \-> [83: gmane.emacs.orgmode/3400] Re: Wish lis= t: Storing links and enabling MIME actions on files . 03-Oct: Bernt Hansen - [80: gmane.emacs.orgmode/3559] Intermittent F= ont Face problem . 25-Apr: Chao Lu - [89: gmane.emacs.orgmode/24512] Edit Worg, Tr= acking changes, ect. . 29-Apr: David Frascone - [91: gmane.emacs.orgmode/24740] Re: Re: Linki= ng Mail ? . 29-Apr: Matt Lundin +-> [94: gmane.emacs.orgmode/24746] Re: Linking= Mail ? . 29-Apr: David Frascone | \-> [91: gmane.emacs.orgmode/24749] Re: Linki= ng Mail ? . 29-Apr: R=C3=A9mi Vanicat | +-> [87: gmane.emacs.orgmode/24777] Re= : Linking Mail ? . 30-Apr: David Maus | \-> [89: gmane.emacs.orgmode/24793] Re: Re:= Linking Mail ? . 30-Apr: Uday S Reddy \-> [82: gmane.emacs.orgmode/24826] Re: Linking= Mail ? . 29-Sep: Matt Lundin - [54: gmane.emacs.orgmode/31143] Re: Having (t= oo) many files in org-agenda-files . 25-Nov: Dan - [60: gmane.emacs.orgmode/34047] Re: [Babel] H= andling of errors when using Ledger . 25-Nov: Bernt Hansen +-> [88: gmane.emacs.orgmode/34055] Re: [Babel]= Handling of errors when using Ledger . 25-Nov: Dan Davison | +-> [91: gmane.emacs.orgmode/34057] [OT] retr= ieving old messages [WAS] Re: [Babel] Handling of errors when using Ledger . 25-Nov: Bernt Hansen | | \-> [100: gmane.emacs.orgmode/34065] Re: [O= T] retrieving old messages . 25-Nov: S=C3=A9bastien Vauba | \-> [86: gmane.emacs.orgmode/34059] Re: = [Babel] Handling of errors when using Ledger . 25-Nov: S=C3=A9bastien Vauba \-> [88: gmane.emacs.orgmode/34056] Re: [B= abel] Handling of errors when using Ledger --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- You can reply directly to any of these articles or type A T to recover the full thread in the Gmane group. If your search is too broad (i.e.,., hundreds of results) and you choose to display all of the results at once, nnir can take a bit of time. I'm not sure it's any more painful than wading through web search results on gmane, though. ;) Best, Matt