From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Bastien Subject: Org expert mode? Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 11:05:32 +0100 Message-ID: <87vczre1eb.fsf@altern.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=55902 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Pxckk-0002aF-1r for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 05:05:55 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Pxcki-0007pR-6X for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 05:05:53 -0500 Received: from mail-ww0-f49.google.com ([74.125.82.49]:63702) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Pxcki-0007p9-2L for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 05:05:52 -0500 Received: by wwc33 with SMTP id 33so1427621wwc.30 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 02:05:50 -0800 (PST) List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Hi all, Org tries to stay as simple/accessible as possible for newbie and as complete/flexible as possible for power users. The documentation and the UI are central for this: the documentation should promote core features, document complex ones, and give pointers on how to hack Org -- it does that already IMO; the UI should give access to core features and give hints on complex ones, so that the user can learn more. I've just added the ability to run a custom function for bulk agenda actions (thanks to Puneeth for the patch!) This is clearly for power users -- or those who are willing to take the time to find functions that we might document in Worg. So I naturally thought of something like an "Org Expert mode": when turned off, the UI would *not* give access to complex features and perhaps display more helpful messages on simple ones; when turned on, Org would have a less verbose UI (think of the C-c C-e window, do we really want to *read* it all the times?) and give access to all the complex features. This is really just a call for ideas/comments -- I wonder if people already came accross such an idea and and what they think. I'm myself not convinced: it's a good thing that Org doesn't need an Expert mode so far, it means newbies are not confused by the UI, and experts are not frustrated by it either. But I expect neat features can emerge from the discussion. Thanks for your thoughts! -- Bastien