From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Bastien Subject: Re: org-metaup / org-metadown nerfed in 7.9.1 Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 08:43:56 +0200 Message-ID: <87vcfaqv0h.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> References: <50589837.4020204@codepuzzles.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:55096) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TEFbI-0001Or-Vu for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 04:25:41 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TEFbD-0002dN-5c for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 04:25:40 -0400 Received: from mail-we0-f169.google.com ([74.125.82.169]:59175) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TEFbC-0002d5-Tx for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 04:25:35 -0400 Received: by weys10 with SMTP id s10so471286wey.0 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 01:25:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <50589837.4020204@codepuzzles.org> (Trevor Vartanoff's message of "Tue, 18 Sep 2012 11:50:15 -0400") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Trevor Vartanoff Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Hi Trevor, Trevor Vartanoff writes: > I updated to 7.9.1 from 7.8.11 and was quite surprised to receive nasty > "Cannot drag element backward" messages when I tried to use org-metaup and > org-metadown to move text around. It is hard to understand the problem without an example. When did you get the message and why was it not appropriate? > Why was this done? The origin of the org-meta{up/down} feature was to be able to move table lines one by one. By a small generalization, org-meta{up/down} also moved lines up/down outside of tables. The idea behind the current behavior is to think in terms of elements, not in terms of lines -- which is good IMHO. (A line is an element of a table, so moving line by line here is the right thing to do.) > How do I get back to one stroke functionality? I'm > afraid I'm not properly understanding the release notes or mailing list > archives. Please explain the problem a bit more. Thanks! -- Bastien