From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Matt Lundin Subject: Re: Bug: Regressions from 8.2.10 (8.2.10-35-g19a7d6-elpaplus) to master/maint Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 08:41:21 -0500 Message-ID: <87vb9rp0u6.fsf@fastmail.fm> References: <87611v2ese.fsf@yin.lan> <87r3kj9ese.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <8737wz2cgo.fsf@yin.lan> <871tcidfmn.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87si4y2493.fsf@yin.lan> <878u6nnuxd.fsf@yin.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39947) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZrQyl-0007SO-IR for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 09:41:28 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZrQyh-0004ZA-G7 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 09:41:27 -0400 Received: from out3-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.27]:50955) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZrQyh-0004Yz-CA for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 09:41:23 -0400 In-Reply-To: <878u6nnuxd.fsf@yin.lan> (Jan Malakhovski's message of "Wed, 28 Oct 2015 10:34:22 +0000") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Jan Malakhovski Cc: Bastien Guerry , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Nicolas Goaziou Jan Malakhovski writes: > I'm pretty sure that there are other org-mode users that are weeping > silently since that change. Suppose you have more than a screen of clock > lines in LOGBOOK under a heading (I have headings that have thousands). > (org-agenda-goto) before 9f5e698679aecbed872a2030e4157e5e2b1d87e0 is > very helpful when moving CLOCK lines between headings (think "refile > CLOCK line") or editing overlaps or gaps: you or click on the > heading and here you are at the CLOCK, but after > 9f5e698679aecbed872a2030e4157e5e2b1d87e0 you have to *retype* the date > and time into search, which is annoying to say the least. Try typing RET in the agenda. That calls org-agenda-switch-to, which brings you to the relevant clock information in the agenda. (However, if the information is tucked away in a LOGBOOK, it remains somewhat inconveniently hidden from view). > I'm willing to listen, but I seriously doubt there's such a compelling > argument defending the change. Even when out of `org-agenda-list` in > plain `org-agenda`, jumping to SCHEDULED or DEADLINE lines is nicer than > to the heading itself. I disagree that jumping to the SCHEDULED or DEADLINE lines from a normal agenda is always nicer than jumping to the headline. I can easily change planning info from within the agenda. But I cannot change the text of the headline itself -- that is usually why I jump from the agenda. If nothing else, we should have both options, which we seem to currently have with the difference between TAB (org-agenda-goto) and RET (org-agenda-switch-to). However, I am not sure how intentional this is, as I can find nothing highlighting this difference in the documentation. Best, Matt