From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Loris Bennett" Subject: Re: Bug: markdown export errors on headers [9.0.9 (9.0.9-82-gb862c2-elpaplus @ /home/fommil/.emacs.d/elpa/org-plus-contrib-20170814/)] Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2017 10:24:54 +0200 Message-ID: <87vakxr1rd.fsf@hornfels.zedat.fu-berlin.de> References: <87h8x3zy94.fsf@gmail.com> <87k21zlwcg.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87inhil1lh.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87inhi9eef.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <878thxhl38.fsf@alphapapa.net> <87d1772e6h.fsf@hornfels.zedat.fu-berlin.de> <874lsidqza.fsf@alphapapa.net> <87pob58y3a.fsf@hornfels.zedat.fu-berlin.de> <87h8whpp80.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42037) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dp9Ay-0007Eq-Iz for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Sep 2017 04:25:45 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dp9At-0004KZ-LM for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Sep 2017 04:25:40 -0400 Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=54882 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dp9As-0004Hq-Dv for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Sep 2017 04:25:35 -0400 Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dp9Ad-0001GK-IA for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Sep 2017 10:25:19 +0200 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Tim Cross writes: > Loris Bennett writes: > >> Adam Porter writes: >> >>> "Loris Bennett" writes: >>> >>>> I didn't know about this function either. Is it correct that the org >>>> parts of 'org-plus-contrib' shadow the whole of 'org', e.g. >>>> >>>> ... >>>> /home/loris/.emacs.d/elpa/org-plus-contrib-20170828/org hides /usr/share/emacs/25.1/lisp/org/org >>>> /home/loris/.emacs.d/elpa/org-plus-contrib-20170828/org-install hides /usr/share/emacs/25.1/lisp/org/org-install >>>> /home/loris/.emacs.d/elpa/org-plus-contrib-20170828/ob-mscgen hides /usr/share/emacs/25.1/lisp/org/ob-mscgen >>>> /home/loris/.emacs.d/elpa/org-plus-contrib-20170828/org-archive hides /usr/share/emacs/25.1/lisp/org/org-archive >>>> /home/loris/.emacs.d/elpa/org-plus-contrib-20170828/ob-tangle hides /usr/share/emacs/25.1/lisp/org/ob-tangle >>>> ... >>>> >>>> plus hundreds of similar shadowings? >>> >>> That's shadowing the Org files distributed with Emacs; you want that. :) >> >> D'oh, I copied the wrong bits. This was what I was wondering about: >> >> ... >> /home/loris/.emacs.d/elpa/org-plus-contrib-20170828/ox-md hides /home/loris/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20170828/ox-md >> /home/loris/.emacs.d/elpa/org-plus-contrib-20170828/ob-lilypond hides /home/loris/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20170828/ob-lilypond >> /home/loris/.emacs.d/elpa/org-plus-contrib-20170828/ob-ruby hides /home/loris/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20170828/ob-ruby >> /home/loris/.emacs.d/elpa/org-plus-contrib-20170828/ob-js hides /home/loris/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20170828/ob-js >> /home/loris/.emacs.d/elpa/org-plus-contrib-20170828/org-crypt hides /home/loris/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20170828/org-crypt >> ... >> >> M-x list-packages shows 'org-plus-contrib' as installed and 'org' as a >> dependency required by >> >> ox-twiki-20170803.1339, org-sticky-header-20170422.2135, org-dotemacs-20151119.1022 >> >> So I guess the above packages should allow 'org-plus-contrib' as an >> alternative requirement to 'org', but currently require only 'org', so I >> end up with both installed. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Loris > > This is an artefact of having the two packages. The package system does > not support alternatives. I have posted a few times regarding this. I > don't think it does any harm, but many people will find they have both > org-plus-contrib as well as org installed. The main draw back is that > updates can take longer due to downloading org twice. > > I and others have asked a few times why the packages are structured in > this way, but nobody seems able to provide the rationale. Personally, I > think we should just have an org package and an org-contrib package > which depends on the org package. > > Tim > So is there a specific reason why there is no 'org-contrib' package without 'org'? Cheers, Loris -- Dr. Loris Bennett (Mr.) ZEDAT, Freie Universität Berlin Email loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de