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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1633057803; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=iQSDHU5OvFGgNv762Cpi9p0WrXAQdzSv5NahOH37pEY=; b=DbNFQfyDma1TQM126mp99tymfJVwFSTw0M/z6U9uaOOIgV66wyt2j5dIVRZ0KyvzyvEmtx pWHynvkE26SKGpXWyjG/K1BkcH6w+W2SRiSHPn3Ar+SRLy2yfXVi2O7d3nYw2c9TPEMUUZ vwPVKGyDX0w0nXmpusilY1NusILyFmLFkny1PExdAi9MRKlskXvXAiBc+oTclIPkPYq/aj Y8BW72Q57zrv2tdXTBF4CbkY7YDkytWaR1mlzVeAoaR+5n73SP7dEFh8LfOtIVW2OaiVkP LsKgmetp7Bq4VdfYQ2KTM21ZcBK9sITfEDSQGRzWuuMOAThWuM+5NI/mxpsq+w== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1633057803; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=AAJHlC8XkQclYIBRQpX0TJK3APDWcEFS9f8ziPUSnJ9Deqos8j521rgwyMNpiu6DJvP7oq xUn3clnA0EdtBlIMq8baCS62yO+WoPWDKDb99wBVAs5XLrIw7ZOmhS91UE8qfsA/e6SDML b3c5C2vWpNP3ycG24TcgYzuFcN2i35GHPGihAwX9QdZZ7fIkuh1JdpVgjNb6aFU4YCSrd+ 0K+2o4+BXceTDBNbINmvSDZM0iwXebMf19gzQIa/l3Gp4Fy5OVjuyq/qdiDdlHwSCt+mGI lWb+qjvnFtFK/Ot8kY3TYLd1A2yjY7fbQjteSDPj9nyAQTccSPdaHJLbumRRxQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.30 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 7CFB23996E X-Spam-Score: -2.30 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: Ke1Sp2/UKLib Hi Kyle, Kyle Meyer writes: > Thanks for the heads up. > > I monitor Org-related changes to the Emacs repo and port them to Org's. > Entering into Emacs release periods, I tend to look at least once a day > so that porting doesn't hold up cutting a bugfix release and syncing. > Other times, it's not as frequent, but usually not less than once a > week. Well, I guess I need to follow the mailing list more closely; if I did, I'd probably have already known that. :) > None of that is to say that flagging an important commit isn't > appreciated. Just setting expectations about what the normal intake > looks like. I don't know, for what we're paying you, I think something like a 1-hour turnaround time would be more appropriate... ;) > (Fwiw a log of the considered commits is available at > .) I didn't know about that URL. That's 8 years of faithful, thankless maintenance. Thanks for your work on Org. :) By the way, I'm curious, not having always followed the internal details of Org's development over the years: why are changes like that made to emacs.git and merged back into Org, instead of being made in Org and then merged back into Emacs with the next sync? It seems like it could be a burden, requiring someone like you to track them and merge them, but there's probably a good reason for this workflow.