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The key realization is that > what we really want is the ability to have a =E2=80=9Cparse me separately= =E2=80=9D > type of syntax. This meets the intra-word syntax needs and might > meet some other needs as well. > > The solution is to make =E2=80=9Cparse me separately=E2=80=9D > block! It nearly works that way already too! To minimize typing > we could have @@:=E2=80=A6@@ the empty type default to org. > > Thoughts? This isn=E2=80=99t quite as succinct as the ascii-doc inspired suggestions,= but it=E2=80=99s barely an extension on the current syntax =E2=80=94 I like it! Since org is a valid export backend though, perhaps this behaviour should be reserved for @@:=E2=80=A6@@, i.e. no export backend, which I think semantic= ally fits fairly nicely. All the best, Timothy --=-=-=--