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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: , =?utf-8?Q?S=C3=A9bastien?= Miquel , orgmode , Timothy Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1642344254; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=NEvLkyOKkyJBLysirmNEj7eY0Tf7tgZfwLa90296lFg=; b=qd1WrQDBPBcHg7giizkuqhJb7IIgvIH24+QomD4F4dwK7j5PUHtIkvuYFuuEs5ssgywIBx kUn5H0NIYY0tso/WpgDYZV2KZ9hWJyj+gqf1ocGihS1cR70JkKVNFatvZHW856PfUae7Rh DJ0vxBIQui4s8vQYMz3FlUXmTwcMrFxSmJVEi1CSU+eCdL2F4RXTdXlsLskXql65IvKhBU twmg35NOmwBEyvjokc+8Q5x+9WgnWSCqx1r2ORYhrJV7cFgeQPUTGtKqWmACC0Gkyf1j9T euSr59OFPB0VYZuH6SAGAcTle4WNwCZmxnSKyvf/D5JadLz9GoUqaMgf7Amdlw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1642344254; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=Wlpus+ARc6cDSSJ0NfY40zSIGYXijLPfCd1+l+h7WUYZpJQzlkanQmT/Tf5FhTO3yNm8CB R9JcDfBEFp08CtKTicCWgsHVCFHU/IUmM/sbkgTwRvG5P8ehtgt6xPhdQ7lyyW9Cu/AY7G r0qM+wDdxV0hD20F+jYQ0+216abElXg/wSkmfShc2nHN/GtRPN2Yc6xINnqQ7OXIjdZ09z DGxGZgSGFfovU5e5fL6UnGpwgVIqmvgd4MY6yz3pRIG50srTgZb+4+yqyDusNkMy5TJGL9 04ck302VPJJyC6o2qvYjspCgQ/mACYaNPJf46+OBRX+2K30I7oHZWta/JIpAIA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=yandex.com header.s=mail header.b=vZqE704g; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=yandex.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.02 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=yandex.com header.s=mail header.b=vZqE704g; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=yandex.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 04BC0FEB1 X-Spam-Score: -2.02 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: JIKyosZlPxGk >>>>> Juan Manuel Mac=C3=ADas writes: > Colin Baxter writes: >> Ah, LaTeX3 - whatever happened to that? > If you're a LaTeX user, you're already using LaTeX3 to a very high > extent, even if you don't see it. The current idea is not to > replace LaTeX2e with LaTeX3 as a new version, but to gradually > incorporate elements of LaTeX3 into the LaTeX kernel, like the new > syntax, xparse, etc. LaTeX3 is already present in many aspects of > LaTeX, and that is an undeniable advance. If anyone is interested > in the state of the art, this short talk by Frank Mittelbach at > TUG 2020 is very illustrative: Yes, I know. My remark was tongue in cheek.