From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp12.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms5.migadu.com with LMTPS id gPSNGy09X2OafQAAbAwnHQ (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2022 04:12:45 +0100 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp12.migadu.com with LMTPS id oB6UGy09X2OIEAEAauVa8A (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2022 04:12:45 +0100 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F103E5C5 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2022 04:12:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1opLDH-0004uf-7J; Sun, 30 Oct 2022 23:11:47 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1opLDF-0004pk-5N for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Oct 2022 23:11:45 -0400 Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1opLDD-0001x0-IF for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Oct 2022 23:11:44 -0400 Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 18562240026 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2022 04:11:40 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1667185901; bh=zxEuff2epBBEJ98nnfb5t26VarkUQ151KxStRFR7wz8=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:From; b=Zi3SKtrz/dBCTZrGCWTdbVb1Dq+vPxB8Nqc0irG1ypnKwkNHx2gWkwHg1+iMiik91 61eCv1n4XydoJdvkdD67ucxGodxSsMrXCwQ95i8mq6AR9u5P0HTbkzqh26HSsImShT QGCtIVgXgNidWOuoqJv9xmVVzXIgMfr6qz53CvD5t8Yo3pzZwX8XnJQ8Y5bP2Ef/1n WwxmJYwjCnb1FzJURzkOI2SryA1EJazNkDiC6hya5DQOExE0hqJ3DiBeUZ41HzU55c 4ywrj+nTtbfQNPVRSiDtLC4W44NeRnMkMXj3tC9WGl3WzajIQAXhy/ivU99nlbQIe+ nOEdUiSRY00Fw== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4N0yqJ0vLMz6tmV; Mon, 31 Oct 2022 04:11:39 +0100 (CET) From: Ihor Radchenko To: Tim Cross Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Subject: Re: Org babel API (was: [FR] Display stderr contents after executing shell blocks (even when stdout :results output is requested) (was: Org 9.6-pre and Bash sessions)) In-Reply-To: <86sfj4bvcn.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87edvbysqc.fsf@localhost> <87r0z6j1b1.fsf@localhost> <87pmel68y6.fsf@localhost> <87o7u432tl.fsf@localhost> <87a65o15ut.fsf@localhost> <87fsffqi49.fsf@localhost> <87wn8lorc1.fsf@localhost> <87v8o4krel.fsf@localhost> <87tu3njmv4.fsf@localhost> <865yg1c7is.fsf@gmail.com> <87fsf4n6c1.fsf@localhost> <86sfj4bvcn.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 03:12:19 +0000 Message-ID: <87v8o0lm98.fsf@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=yantar92@posteo.net; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1667185964; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=0oSxuT9mu7owN6sckBhxOi1c1z835gmZ3qWYmXrq7nA=; b=TN1aaiWubCdBi613bFarJmjXydz8d3Q9JWMDyl0DZQWGJwenbATm0LtNAWQWdF8UvK0N8X BhuHpMAfFZ0OEcNVW5C4Pd5ZSYUvtKXlQr9Nwjdd7Br5zwZjCCRXEYdo6GnJjujFscpkwo BMXJolNLRaPofmaMjJeFn9yAzx8tv3PaJIyr4dFcYtRcZ3a7wxD/ALcc7hS8gUXCJRyKG+ s60y3Qc1BSZ7DvAIH5Ef22Z71tjXF+ehJKI/xgxyTC4PdrBbSg7QGjazoOZTIpFSf8sS3g pJ7+JVZBlCMNbi1rr+qoAS9Kbca5r6yxJ2RDX0qqZrbX8i9zZCf0beNRnJJQ6Q== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1667185964; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=VLbstQFlxbO0s/+PeCGWYcTzVAObQsNB0k/T40jOIOUkrVAZMjUqVe+Ix7+qccFwKUd6a6 Q6OstN4A5zGCUmsBDKnLMz0npQm8mDa2XltvHTWPWbAdb0i9THSOnsxgCiA3/B9tjdXjGA 0Xxq9J6BgmcRCMRBFkup3moFB6xeVfE5Zh+dOB80r0nXHlJwwB7zRk+BV7vEjZolgtACQb DnS2paZLsKfbiA+KSuyJYVVartc4Z4AIpr2ZURpPEYECqBj8Fq7HpyU7bMJMHicd3RjIUE xjfD908/PkILRYmD/Dd9Sgoi9fmuFRI3tK+6VKYp/oCX7Hpx1XnjHmqCa0gtRA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=posteo.net header.s=2017 header.b=Zi3SKtrz; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=posteo.net; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.46 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=posteo.net header.s=2017 header.b=Zi3SKtrz; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=posteo.net; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 4F103E5C5 X-Spam-Score: -3.46 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: JeKODPjwGh59 Tim Cross writes: >>> The 2 big questions I see are "What should be defaults be?" and "How do >>> we handle the options without adding lots of new switches or suffering >>> an option permutation blow out?". >> >> I am sorry, but I do not fully understand what you are talking about. >> Which defaults are you referring to? > > In general, all the defaults for babel blocks, but morfe specifically > here, deffault handling for stderr. stdout is the current default. And I'd say that it is expected default. Sorry, I still do not understand the concrete problem you are trying to highlight. -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at