From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp12.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms5.migadu.com with LMTPS id BlChKRn//GOPNQAAbAwnHQ (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 27 Feb 2023 20:06:01 +0100 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp12.migadu.com with LMTPS id MNoIKRn//GPLWgAAauVa8A (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 27 Feb 2023 20:06:01 +0100 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 67DB724770 for ; Mon, 27 Feb 2023 20:06:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pWio3-0007PQ-4Z; Mon, 27 Feb 2023 14:05:03 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pWio1-0007P3-Cm for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Feb 2023 14:05:01 -0500 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pWiny-0004Dt-MI for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Feb 2023 14:05:01 -0500 Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E67D12405FD for ; Mon, 27 Feb 2023 20:04:55 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1677524695; bh=jH1QquRLRvburkJTdIoAba8saRfnAruRxdnmf3XW1uY=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:From; b=Jt8t5jKKBoy4gySnbL4QOccvWUjMRT0f7ng97jguCeReUW5DaNhWboOOpoLFoT3t9 AJ6NnE4gS5AGezYXTVrCGL8puZbdb6gxChg5nkJmWOuX67wvnWWi744IVuluCJxmDt NJFCh7jG2VMAtw9nL4D3zMmdS00d1RbrzvLz6ujKWVnSId2/D1koFoTWS1zi5qQoII NyykyRMz7CxKtBlCzDD19XltP0R0i67QS2RDxTiwQM7kOOeNi09YRt8FsdAObs/Pf2 I/L7tzWHi0d5CRwqj/e3/GShBOxEiTbBJ8bUW4qyh2wxHJEtHjr6h9rlmhFGJ9RZkW Ex2KfsF6mOwQw== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4PQVLH1qHPz6trg; Mon, 27 Feb 2023 20:04:55 +0100 (CET) From: Ihor Radchenko To: sebastien.miquel@posteo.eu Cc: emacs-orgmode , Timothy Subject: Re: [PATCH] Introduce "export features" In-Reply-To: References: <875yc95rxp.fsf@tec.tecosaur.net> <87ilfwnsf4.fsf@tec.tecosaur.net> <87h6vb43tq.fsf@localhost> <87ilfozkih.fsf@localhost> Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2023 19:05:33 +0000 Message-ID: <87v8jnx72a.fsf@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=yantar92@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." 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Then I suggest that such use be described in the manual. >>> Having the user create a whole new option in order to toggle a >>> `chikenize` package seems a bit unwieldy, however. >> What do you suggest instead of creating a new option? > > Timothy's patch supports having a feature depend on a variable. I was > thinking here of a user variable (instead of an already defined org > variable) that could be toggled per document. > > It is fairly orthogonal to the original purpose of the patch, but it > does scratch an annoying itch of mine: there's very little support in > org to minutely tweak the export on a per document basis, beyond the > default options. Defining a new option is easy: (org-export-define-derived-backend 'my-html 'html :options-alist '((:my-option "MY_OPTION_KEYWORD" nil "my-option" my-option-variable))) Then, you can either #+:BIND: my-option-variable t or #+OPTIONS: my-option:t or #+MY_OPTION_KEYWORD: t Of course, you will also need to plug support of :my-option as needed via filters or altering transcoders. Timothy, since you are going to provide a macro for altering the existing backends, it would also make sense to generalize it for altering other aspects of the backends, like option-alist, filters-alist, and menu-entry. > One way to do this (easier than setting up a new option), is to define > any variable, make the feature depend on it, and set it using the > `#+bind` keyword. Combined with these export features, this could be > used to easily tweak the LaTeX preamble, per document. > > If we find this use case to be legitimate and useful, I suggested > earlier making it even easier with a `#+org_export_features` keyword. > It would only take a list of feature names, and not require any > variable tied to the feature. I do not see much point compared to option alist, which is more flexible. And you can always define a feature with condition to match against "#\\+org_export_features.+my-feature". --=20 Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at