* Inconvenient end-of-file behavior in org-mode 9.6 (emacs 29.1)
@ 2023-08-16 13:19 Kaiyu Zheng
2023-08-18 15:54 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-19 3:26 ` Max Nikulin
0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Kaiyu Zheng @ 2023-08-16 13:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Dear Org-mode maintainers,
Org-mode has been fantastic. However, in the most recent release as
part of emacs 29.1, I am experiencing an inconvenience that made me
switch back to 28.3. (I learned from this page
https://irreal.org/blog/?p=10982 that emacs 29.1 released org-mode
9.6).
The issue is: let's say I have a simple org-mode file, and let's say
the cursor starts at the top of the file (marked by '|'):
|* Sec1
** SubSec1
** SubSec2
In 28.3 and before, when I do `M->`, and hit 'Enter', I get to the end
of file on a new line outside of SubSec2, like so:
* Sec1
** SubSec1
** SubSec2
|
And now I could type `** SubSec3` to add a new section like below:
* Sec1
** SubSec1
** SubSec2
** SubSec3|
But in 29.1, when I do the same sequence, the cursor is "trapped" in
SubSec2, and I had to expand SubSec2 first in order to see what I'm
typing. I don't like this behavior -- I wonder why it is this way in
the new version. How is this better? Could we revert back?
Now, you could argue that I should type in the keybinding for
inserting the subsection instead of doing this manually. But I simply
don't remember (and never tried remembering) the keybinding for adding
a new section -- I don't think I'm wrong by not remembering that
keybinding. I was able to do what I wanted before in a simple and
natural way.
I hope my concern is valid.
Best,
Kaiyu
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* Re: Inconvenient end-of-file behavior in org-mode 9.6 (emacs 29.1)
2023-08-16 13:19 Inconvenient end-of-file behavior in org-mode 9.6 (emacs 29.1) Kaiyu Zheng
@ 2023-08-18 15:54 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-19 7:28 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-19 3:26 ` Max Nikulin
1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Ihor Radchenko @ 2023-08-18 15:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Kaiyu Zheng; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Kaiyu Zheng <kaiyu_zheng@alumni.brown.edu> writes:
> In 28.3 and before, when I do `M->`, and hit 'Enter', I get to the end
> of file on a new line outside of SubSec2, like so:
>
> * Sec1
> ** SubSec1
> ** SubSec2
> |
>
> And now I could type `** SubSec3` to add a new section like below:
>
> * Sec1
> ** SubSec1
> ** SubSec2
> ** SubSec3|
>
> But in 29.1, when I do the same sequence, the cursor is "trapped" in
> SubSec2, and I had to expand SubSec2 first in order to see what I'm
> typing. I don't like this behavior -- I wonder why it is this way in
> the new version. How is this better? Could we revert back?
You can try some other key that is not enter. For example, <SPC>.
'Enter' should work on main, the development branch.
I will see what can be done on stable Org version.
--
Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
Org mode contributor,
Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>.
Support Org development at <https://liberapay.com/org-mode>,
or support my work at <https://liberapay.com/yantar92>
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* Re: Inconvenient end-of-file behavior in org-mode 9.6 (emacs 29.1)
2023-08-16 13:19 Inconvenient end-of-file behavior in org-mode 9.6 (emacs 29.1) Kaiyu Zheng
2023-08-18 15:54 ` Ihor Radchenko
@ 2023-08-19 3:26 ` Max Nikulin
2023-08-19 7:55 ` Ihor Radchenko
1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Max Nikulin @ 2023-08-19 3:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
On 16/08/2023 20:19, Kaiyu Zheng wrote:
> The issue is: let's say I have a simple org-mode file, and let's say
> the cursor starts at the top of the file (marked by '|'):
>
> |* Sec1
> ** SubSec1
> ** SubSec2
A similar, but not so severe change in comparison to 9.5:
In response to C-RET Org-9.5 just adds first level heading (so M-<rignt>
puts it to the same level as SubSec2, it is my usual way to append a
subheading), but Org>=9.6 adds ellipsis after cursor. When some content
is pasted from clipboard, it appears folded.
Complete example:
---- 8< ----
#+startup: content
* Sec1
** SubSec1
text
** SubSec2
text
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* Re: Inconvenient end-of-file behavior in org-mode 9.6 (emacs 29.1)
2023-08-19 3:26 ` Max Nikulin
@ 2023-08-19 7:55 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-20 2:41 ` Max Nikulin
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Ihor Radchenko @ 2023-08-19 7:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Max Nikulin; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> writes:
> A similar, but not so severe change in comparison to 9.5:
>
> In response to C-RET Org-9.5 just adds first level heading (so M-<rignt>
> puts it to the same level as SubSec2, it is my usual way to append a
> subheading), but Org>=9.6 adds ellipsis after cursor. When some content
> is pasted from clipboard, it appears folded.
Thanks! I saw this issue from time to time and heard reports about it.
But did not have a reproducer.
Fixed, on bugfix.
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git/commit/?id=52bc95676
--
Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
Org mode contributor,
Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>.
Support Org development at <https://liberapay.com/org-mode>,
or support my work at <https://liberapay.com/yantar92>
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* Re: Inconvenient end-of-file behavior in org-mode 9.6 (emacs 29.1)
2023-08-19 7:55 ` Ihor Radchenko
@ 2023-08-20 2:41 ` Max Nikulin
2023-08-20 6:32 ` Ihor Radchenko
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Max Nikulin @ 2023-08-20 2:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
On 19/08/2023 14:55, Ihor Radchenko wrote:
> Max Nikulin writes:
>
>> In response to C-RET Org-9.5 just adds first level heading (so M-<rignt>
>> puts it to the same level as SubSec2, it is my usual way to append a
>> subheading), but Org>=9.6 adds ellipsis after cursor. When some content
>> is pasted from clipboard, it appears folded.
>
> Thanks! I saw this issue from time to time and heard reports about it.
> But did not have a reproducer.
> Fixed, on bugfix.
> https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git/commit/?id=52bc95676
Ihor, I have tried "main" and I confirm that at the end of file behavior
has become better. Unfortunately newline is not added in the case of an
intermediate headings
|* Sec1
** SubSec1
** SubSec2
* Sec2
C-RET
* Sec1
** SubSec1
** SubSec2
* |* Sec2
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