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From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
To: Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Completion of links to man pages
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2023 16:15:07 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87v8blgi5w.fsf@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ufmmgh$m6u$1@ciao.gmane.io>

Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> writes:

> On 05/10/2023 19:48, Ihor Radchenko wrote:
>> Max Nikulin writes:
>> 
>>> Frankly speaking, I am unsure if woman should be supported in Org at
>>> all. My early experience with woman.el was not nice. I tried M-x woman
>>> RET ssh RET (openssh).
>> 
>> woman is not trying to be complete. See [[info:woman#Introduction]].
>> 
>> For Org support, we already support it, and it would be a feature
>> regression if we remove it.
>
> World has changed since woman.el was developed. Are there systems with 
> man pages available, but no man command nowadays? Android with man pages 
> copied by its user?

MS-DOS, for example. Or old Windows versions. Emacs can work on many
systems and there is no reason to avoid supporting more OSes when we do
not have to.

> I see a little value in a tool that can not handle a wide spread case 
> when a better one is available. Features, that were unique for woman, 
> have been implemented for man.

Which is why `org-man-command' is set to 'man by default.

> In WoMan I have not found a way to open <man:man(7)> directly without an 
> additional prompt for the page section.

> man.el has a lot of options how to select window for a man page. It is 
> not the case for woman.
> ... For Org internal link types same/other window is 
> controlled by prefix argument (however `org-open-at-point' doc string 
> describes another meaning of prefix argument: if link should be opened 
> in Emacs or an external application). I am unsure what is proper 
> behavior of man links opened from Org, should Org try to make behavior 
> consistent or it should let packages to act as they wish.

These two sound like feature requests for WoMan. These features might also
benefit Org, if implemented.

-- 
Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
Org mode contributor,
Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>.
Support Org development at <https://liberapay.com/org-mode>,
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  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-05 16:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-04 11:40 Completion of links to man pages Max Nikulin
2023-10-05 11:40 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-10-05 12:20   ` Max Nikulin
2023-10-05 12:48     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-10-05 15:59       ` Max Nikulin
2023-10-05 16:15         ` Ihor Radchenko [this message]
2023-10-05 16:37           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-05 16:55             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-10-05 17:13               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-05 17:30                 ` Ihor Radchenko
     [not found]                 ` <ufnvit$12ho$1@ciao.gmane.io>
2023-10-06 21:37                   ` Richard Stallman
2023-10-07 11:14                 ` Michael Albinus
2023-10-06  3:58           ` Max Nikulin
2023-10-05 15:52   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-05 16:05     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-10-05 16:33       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-05 16:53         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-10-05 17:11           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-05 17:36             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-10-06  3:16             ` Max Nikulin
2023-12-09 11:32 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-13 15:20   ` [PATCH] ol-man.el: Enable completion Max Nikulin
2023-12-14 15:09     ` Ihor Radchenko

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