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From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
To: Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: bash source code block: problem after ssh commands
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2023 10:43:27 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87v89z1gvk.fsf@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <uj9r7d$a2b$1@ciao.gmane.io>

Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> writes:

> ...
> I have not expected this difference.
>
> dash reads a block from stdin (whole file in this case) and interprets 
> commands.
>
> BASH reads just the ssh command and executes it. SSH reads "echo done" 
> from stdin, so when control is returned to bash, stdin is exhausted and 
> no commands remain to execute by BASH. SSH can not "unread" part of 
> input not consumed by the remote command despite it might be possible in 
> the case of the regular file as stdin.
>
> Actually bash reads the whole script file as well when called as it is 
> shown above, but it calls lseek before executing ssh. To make difference 
> more apparent (e.g. for strace), force creation of pipe(7) for which 
> lseek is not supported
> ...
> I do not think it is an Org or an Emacs bug. It is rather POSIX vs. bash 
> vs. dash issue.

I still see it as a bug - what Org mode does to run the shell blocks is
not what users expect. _By default_, we _should_ produce more expected
behavior.

The observed inconsistency between different shells just indicates that
our approach with `process-file' should not be used as it leads to
potentially confusing results (they are not confusing only to people who
dig deeply into ssh, bash/dash/etc, and Org mode internals).

I cannot find any clear motivation behind using `process-file' + INFILE
in the git logs. I assume that it was used simply because it is easier
compared to trying to create and run temporary script file on remote
hosts.

-- 
Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
Org mode contributor,
Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>.
Support Org development at <https://liberapay.com/org-mode>,
or support my work at <https://liberapay.com/yantar92>


  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-18 10:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-25 11:17 bash source code block: problem after ssh commands Alain.Cochard
2023-10-25 15:12 ` Leo Butler
2023-10-25 16:14   ` Alain.Cochard
2023-10-25 16:47     ` Leo Butler
2023-10-25 16:59     ` yaxp
2023-10-26  8:44   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-10-26 13:23     ` Alain.Cochard
2023-10-26 13:44       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-10-27 18:26         ` Alain.Cochard
2023-10-28  5:22           ` Max Nikulin
2023-10-30 10:50           ` Bruno Barbier
2023-11-06 13:32             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-11-06 18:25               ` Matt
2023-11-07  8:55                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-11-08 19:41                   ` Matt
2023-11-09 12:14                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-11-09 17:48                       ` Matt
2023-11-15 16:32                         ` Matt
2023-11-15 18:04                           ` Matt
2023-11-16  9:32                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-11-16 19:03                             ` Matt
2023-11-16 19:46                               ` Alain.Cochard
2023-11-16 20:54                                 ` Matt
2023-11-17  9:22                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-11-17  9:55                                     ` Alain.Cochard
2023-11-17 10:17                                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-11-17 15:32                                         ` Leo Butler
2023-11-17 15:47                                         ` Bruno Barbier
2023-11-18 10:37                                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-11-21 19:01                                             ` Bruno Barbier
2023-11-22 17:06                                               ` Max Nikulin
2023-11-19  4:17                                           ` Non-emacs shell (Re: bash source code block: problem after ssh commands) Max Nikulin
2023-11-21 15:33                                             ` Bruno Barbier
2023-11-18  8:04                                         ` bash source code block: problem after ssh commands Max Nikulin
2023-11-18 10:43                                           ` Ihor Radchenko [this message]
2023-11-18 16:18                                             ` Max Nikulin
2023-11-17 22:07                                     ` Matt
2023-11-18  3:11                                       ` Forget about "bash -c bash file.sh" (Re: bash source code block: problem after ssh commands) Max Nikulin
2023-11-18  8:11                                         ` Matt
2023-11-18  8:29                                           ` Bruno Barbier
2023-11-18  8:43                                             ` Matt
2023-11-18  8:54                                               ` Bruno Barbier
2023-11-18  9:09                                                 ` Matt
2023-11-18  9:11                                                   ` Bruno Barbier
2023-11-18 10:47                                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-11-18  8:19                                       ` bash source code block: problem after ssh commands Bruno Barbier
2023-11-18  9:02                                         ` Matt
2023-11-18 15:51                                       ` Matt
2023-10-26 14:44 ` Russell Adams
2023-10-27 11:47   ` Alain.Cochard
2023-11-06 18:01     ` Matt
2023-11-07  0:51       ` Alain.Cochard
2023-11-18  8:09 ` Max Nikulin
2023-11-18  8:36   ` Bruno Barbier

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