From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Matthew Lundin Subject: Re: Results of the SourceForge Community Award Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:22:50 -0500 Message-ID: <87tz12j5z9.fsf@fastmail.fm> References: <87prbqmjro.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MUPND-0007cq-1M for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:20:03 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MUPN8-0007R4-BM for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:20:02 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=60501 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MUPN8-0007Qi-7r for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:19:58 -0400 Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.25]:60336) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MUPN7-0007LK-P8 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:19:58 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Raffi R.'s message of "Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:43:04 -0400") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Raffi R Cc: User , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Raffi R writes: > That's an interesting point. I started using org-mode randomly, > because I was writing an outline and didn't care for outline-mode and > figured org-mode should be compatible. After I'd used it for a couple > outlines, I found it could export to HTML. And LaTeX. And worked as a > day planner... > > In terms of marketing within the Emacs community, it might be worth > advertising it as an outline-mode replacement. Has anyone written a > simple tutorial explaining how to use org-mode just in this way, and > then providing a link to, say, the manual/Worg at the end? Most of the > tutorials I've seen have been focused on org's time-management > capabilities. But the ability to type up an outline, manage that > outline, expand it into a document, and export it separately as a > Beamer presentation with notes, a PDF, and a webpage are "killer app" > functionality in their own right! This is a very helpful discussion. I'm currently working on a tutorial and screencast that highlights the outlining/publishing features of org-mode that work without any customization ("org-mode out of the box," so to speak). I'll try to get it online as soon as I can. I think GTD-fatigue is one of the major reasons that people might not be aware of just how powerful and versatile org-mode is. My highly unscientific conclusion is that many people think of it as one more GTD/day-planner/time-management application, when, in fact, it could can as a fully functional outliner, plain-text database, "word processor," spreadsheet, etc. As evidence in support of your point, here's an article on "5 Linux Outliners" from Linux.com (Oct. 2008) that only mentions Emacs outliner in passing ("very basic," it says). Org-mode is conspicuous in its absence: http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/149401 Best, Matt