From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Eric Schulte Subject: Re: Org-mode release 7.9 Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 13:01:14 -0600 Message-ID: <87txvi3myt.fsf@gmx.com> References: <87sjbcb89x.fsf@altern.org> <87sjb9iqgp.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <878vcylxi7.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <873935mvd9.fsf@altern.org> <20120829234032.GA27761@panix.com> <878vcxgcdz.fsf@altern.org> <87sjb4725t.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <878vcwmdne.fsf@gmx.com> <87fw73v74v.fsf@altern.org> <87pq67uev7.fsf@Rainer.invalid> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60684) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T7WTC-00005T-Cp for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 15:01:31 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T7WTA-000877-N5 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 15:01:30 -0400 Received: from mailout-us.gmx.com ([74.208.5.67]:56052) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T7WTA-000873-Gj for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 15:01:28 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87pq67uev7.fsf@Rainer.invalid> (Achim Gratz's message of "Fri, 31 Aug 2012 19:54:04 +0200") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Achim Gratz Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Achim Gratz writes: > Bastien writes: >> Are you both talking about the same thing?=20=20 > > I'm not sure, but we'll find out. > >> (I use ELPA* to denote other ELPA archives than GNU ELPA.) >> >> If this is about a org-*.tar ELPA* package containing both >> *core* and *contrib*, I disagree. >> >> If this is about a org-contrib*.tar ELPA* (or wherever), I >> agree. > > I was talking about the hypothetical possibility to offer another > archive that is compatible with package manager and either packages Org > including contrib or just contrib (so that it could be installed > alongside the "normal" Org ELPA archive). > > Of these two options the first (canned Org + contrib/ in a single > archive) is considerably easier to implement since all autoload > dependencies are kept inside the same install. > This first option of a combined org+contrib package in a non-GNU ELPA* does sound like the easiest to implement and most likely to succeed (for the reasons Achim mentions above). Is there a downside to such a combined package which I am missing? Perhaps such a package could be called org-w-contrib or more simply org-contrib. > >> Hopefully we can define dependencies for packages living on >> different ELPA* serveurs -- can someone confirm this? > > I don't think that's possible if I understand what you're asking. When > you configure multiple servers the package manager will treat all > packages the same, you can't prefer packages on one server over another > AFAIK =E2=80=94 it choses the one with the highest version if the same pa= ckage > is offered from multiple sources. > Confirmed, when specifying a dependency you are only allowed to give the name and the minimum version number. Which server the package is downloaded from is undefined. > >> If we are sure we can have a org-contrib in ELPA* that knows what org it >> should rely on GNU ELPA, then let's go ahead with such package. > > That on the other hand would be possible if we find a way to sort out > the autoloads maze. But we might avoid that problem altogether if we > simply offer the Org+contrib package on orgmode.org and tell people to > download it and then issue "M-x package-install-file". > Assuming that simply specifying org as a dependency of org-contrib is insufficient, then I would think that this combined install would be the way to go. Best, > > > Regards, > Achim. --=20 Eric Schulte http://cs.unm.edu/~eschulte