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From: Samuel Loury <konubinix@gmail.com>
To: "Gustav Wikström" <gustav.erik@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Formal description of Org files
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2014 16:22:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tx3hgtvw.fsf@konixwork.incubateur.ens-lyon.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+SyOP-0Rntb6r52vGtsDPOMm9On48SaPMacdOhZp3t7OSWz-w@mail.gmail.com>

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Hi,
Gustav Wikström <gustav.erik@gmail.com> writes:

>> Just curious: what is it you wish to do in a mobile environment.  I have
>> everything I need with MobileOrg and running full emacs + org on an
>> OpenPandora.  Obviously, your needs may be different than mine.
>>
>> (email composed on train offline on my OpenPandora in Emacs with gnus ;-)
>>
>> --
>> : Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 24.3.1, Org release_8.3beta-372-gdd70cf
>
> My wish is to be able to do mostly everything related to
> task-tracking, scheduling, working with references and so on. General
> GTD stuff. OpenPandora sounds neat, except it's not quite the standard
> tool available out there ;-) And a general idea of Emacs in your
> pocket is nice, except it's not really possible without a different UI
> than the keyboard. So; what way forward with GTD in Emacs Org-mode
> then, while still having the wish of it to be more accessible?
>
> Thus the idea of a more formal (and parsable) grammar in a
> standardized format. My hope is that it will make Org-mode more
> general than it already is. As I said already; Org-mode to me is more
> than Emacs. To think BIG, Org-mode grammar could be a standard for PIM
> or GTD related software. To think a bit less big, it might help
> developers create software with non-Emacs tools. By using the formal
> grammar to work with Org-mode source documents in more accessible
> ways. Maybe with UI's available through mobile phones or tablets (and
> without the use of special schedules of read/write in Emacs to keep
> the mobile system synced; MobileOrg).
This sounds like a good idea. And since there are a lot of parsers in
other languages recognizing a subset of org mode syntax, other people
like this idea too.

I think a difficulty with that solution is that it won't capture the
heavy customization the user can make on org-mode using hooks or
customizing variables.

Having a real emacs in the pocket would provide org-mode along with the
customization. Nevertheless, as you stated, emacs is not really user
friendly when you don't have a keyboard at hand.

For that reason, I think that as well as embedding emacs into the phone,
we could provide a UI communicating with it using an IPC mechanism.

This way, we would have the solution with more to gain (a functional
org-mode as well as the customization) and less to write (only the
needed UI code). I already tried using epc to perform a two way
communication between a python shell and emacs. I talked about this in
another thread¹.

What do you think of this approach?

¹ http://mid.gmane.org/87iokv4659.fsf@gmail.com
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  reply	other threads:[~2014-10-06 14:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-21 12:10 Formal description of Org files Gustav Wikström
2014-09-21 12:43 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-10-02  8:28   ` Samuel Loury
2014-10-02 17:03     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-10-04 19:49   ` Gustav Wikström
2014-09-26  8:12 ` Eric S Fraga
2014-09-26 12:53   ` Grant Rettke
2014-09-26 20:51     ` Eric S Fraga
2014-10-04 19:41   ` Gustav Wikström
2014-10-06 14:22     ` Samuel Loury [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-04-15 17:13 Rustom Mody
2011-04-15 17:27 ` MidLifeXis at PerlMonks
2011-04-15  7:58 Carsten Dominik
2011-04-15  8:54 ` Rainer Stengele
2011-04-15 10:57   ` Carsten Dominik
2011-04-15 11:50     ` Peter Frings
2011-04-15 12:05       ` Carsten Dominik
2011-04-15 15:25         ` Jambunathan K
2011-04-20 11:57           ` Olaf.Hamann
2011-04-15 12:58 ` Christian Egli
2011-04-15 13:42   ` Peter Frings
2011-04-15 13:52     ` Filippo A. Salustri
2011-04-15 14:20 ` Wes Hardaker
2011-04-15 17:29   ` Eric Schulte
2011-04-15 18:31     ` Nick Dokos
2011-04-20 12:37       ` Olivier Schwander
2011-07-15 18:07         ` Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
2011-07-16 16:56           ` Bastien
2011-07-16 17:09             ` Nick Dokos
2011-07-16 17:12               ` Bastien
2011-07-16 18:21               ` suvayu ali
2011-07-16 18:43                 ` Nick Dokos
2011-07-17 23:14             ` Eric Schulte
2011-07-18  9:30               ` Christopher Witte
2011-07-18 23:32               ` Bastien
2011-07-18 21:02             ` Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
2011-07-18 21:03               ` Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
2011-07-18 11:04           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2011-07-18 23:35             ` Bastien
2011-07-19  6:16             ` Jambunathan K
2011-07-24 18:58               ` Bastien

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