Re: lots of CLOCK lines displayed when opening a TODO

["Loris Bennett" <loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de>]

Rainer Stengele <rainer.stengele@online.de> writes:

> Am 12.03.2015 um 09:03 schrieb Loris Bennett:
>> Rainer Stengele <rainer.stengele@online.de> writes:
>> 
>>> Am 05.03.2015 um 09:02 schrieb Loris Bennett:
>>>> Rainer Stengele <rainer.stengele@online.de> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>
>>>>> I have lots of weekly reoccuring meetings and do collect the clocked
>>>>> time for each meeting.  After a while I have lots of CLOCK
>>>>> lines. Opening the TODO shows all the CLOCK lines shown, but my focus
>>>>> is on text below the CLOCK lines.  I started to use multiple LOGBOOK
>>>>> blocks in order to hide older CLOCK lines. Seems to work fine with
>>>>> clocking etc.  My requirement would be to only open the first LOGBOOK
>>>>> block when opening the headline (TODO).  That way I could hide older
>>>>> entries from using screen space and instead see the text below
>>>>> immediately.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anybody else uses multiple LOGBOOK blocks that way? Other ideas how to
>>>>> work?  Any chance to get this regarded as an enhancement idea?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>> Regards, Rainer
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> * TODO [#A] Weekly Services - Action Items
>>>>> :LOGBOOK:
>>>>> CLOCK: [2015-03-04 Mi 10:15]--[2015-03-04 Mi 11:30] =>  1:15
>>>>> CLOCK: [2015-03-02 Mo 11:00]--[2015-03-02 Mo 12:15] =>  1:15
>>>>> :END:
>>>>> :LOGBOOK:
>>>>> CLOCK: [2015-02-25 Mi 10:00]--[2015-02-25 Mi 11:00] =>  1:00
>>>>> CLOCK: [2015-02-16 Mo 10:00]--[2015-02-16 Mo 11:15] =>  1:15
>>>>> CLOCK: [2015-02-06 Fr 09:30]--[2015-02-06 Fr 09:45] =>  0:15
>>>>> CLOCK: [2015-02-06 Fr 10:00]--[2015-02-06 Fr 11:00] =>  1:00
>>>>> CLOCK: [2015-01-23 Fr 13:45]--[2015-01-23 Fr 14:00] =>  0:15
>>>>> CLOCK: [2015-01-22 Do 14:30]--[2015-01-22 Do 14:45] =>  0:15
>>>>> CLOCK: [2015-01-22 Do 13:45]--[2015-01-22 Do 14:00] =>  0:15
>>>>> CLOCK: [2015-01-21 Mi 09:45]--[2015-01-21 Mi 10:45] =>  1:00
>>>>> CLOCK: [2015-01-20 Di 09:45]--[2015-01-20 Di 10:00] =>  0:15
>>>>> CLOCK: [2015-01-19 Mo 16:30]--[2015-01-19 Mo 16:45] =>  0:15
>>>>> CLOCK: [2015-01-19 Mo 13:15]--[2015-01-19 Mo 15:00] =>  1:45
>>>>> CLOCK: [2015-01-19 Mo 10:00]--[2015-01-19 Mo 11:15] =>  1:15
>>>>> CLOCK: [2014-12-15 Mo 10:00]--[2014-12-15 Mo 10:30] =>  0:30
>>>>> CLOCK: [2014-12-03 Mi 10:30]--[2014-12-03 Mi 11:15] =>  0:45
>>>>> CLOCK: [2014-12-01 Mo 09:45]--[2014-12-01 Mo 10:45] =>  1:00
>>>>> CLOCK: [2014-11-03 Mo 10:00]--[2014-11-03 Mo 11:00] =>  1:00
>>>>> CLOCK: [2014-11-10 Mo 09:45]--[2014-11-10 Mo 10:45] =>  1:00
>>>>> CLOCK: [2014-11-19 Mi 10:30]--[2014-11-19 Mi 11:15] =>  0:45
>>>>> CLOCK: [2014-11-24 Mo 10:00]--[2014-11-24 Mo 11:00] =>  1:00
>>>>> CLOCK: [2014-11-25 Di 08:00]--[2014-11-25 Di 10:45] =>  2:45
>>>>> :END:
>>>>>
>>>>> - text I would like to see without having to scroll over all the CLOCK lines
>>>>
>>>> I use two drawers:
>>>>
>>>> #+DRAWERS: LOGBOOK OLDLOGS
>>>>
>>>> When the LOGBOOK get a bit long I manually move some the lines to
>>>> OLDLOGS.  Both draws only open when I TAB on them.
>>>>
>>>> I don't actually use the data in the logs directly, just as a backup for
>>>> my other time-keeping.  This is mainly because the one-minute resolution
>>>> of the clocking is to fine for my needs.
>>>>
>>>> Have you changed the clocking resolution?  If so, how?  Or are you just
>>>> an amazingly accurate clocker?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Loris
>>>>
>>> Hi Loris,
>>>
>>> please check variable org-time-stamp-rounding-minutes in order to round time stamps.
>> 
>> OK, thanks.  I'll have a look at that.
>> 
>>> You are right, when I am in an org file the logbook drawers do not
>>> open by default when cycling.  My use case: I am jumping to a headline
>>> directly from an agenda item. "Tabbing" on that item jumps to the
>>> headline and shows the complete contents, including drawers.  Not sure
>>> why this is the case. I would like to have the same behavior as when
>>> tabbing in the Org file directly. Can you confirm this is the same in
>>> your setting?
>> 
>> If I jump from the agenda entry 'Fun', I get something like the
>> following:
>> 
>> * Stuff
>> ** Fun...
>> ** Boring...
>> 
>> If I press 'tab', I get
>> 
>> * Stuff
>> ** Fun
>>    :LOGBOOK:...
>>    :OLDLOGS:...
>> ** Boring
>> 
>> If I press 'tab' again, nothing happens.  If I press 'tab' a third time,
>> the heading fold back and I get
>> 
>> * Stuff
>> ** Fun...
>> ** Boring...
>> 
>> again.  I'm not sure why the second press performs no action.  In any
>> case, I only see the contents of the LOGBOOK draw if I move onto it and
>> then press 'tab' again.  So quite different from the behaviour you get.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Loris
>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Rainer Stengele
>>>
>>>
>> 
>
> Loris,
>
> you do not seem to have CLOCK entries directly under the headline
> "Stuff", to which you are jumping to from agenda.  Can you add a few
> CLOCK lines in drawer and simulate this and tell me if these stay
> closed or not directly after the jump.
>
> Regards,
> Rainer Stengele

I was actually jumping to "Fun" rather that "Stuff".  And "Fun" does
have a draw full of CLOCKs.  What I don't have is a top-level heading in
my agenda and I don't have any top-level heading which I clock into.

I could test this, but I would have to tweak my setup a bit more than I
can do easily at the moment.  Do you think the level of the heading
being jumped to makes a difference?

Cheers,

Loris

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