table formula, empty field, duration

table formula, empty field, duration

[Kristof Ralovich]

Dear All,

it appears to me that the concept of "empty field" is not defined for
time durations, or it is quite different to how it is defined for
numbers (using org-mode 9.1.9).

In the first table, the empty row @6 produces an empty field for the sum
($5, first formula), that vmean is able to "skip" (second formula) and
gives the expected result 8.25 (=33/4).

#+TBLNAME: works_with_numbers
| h | start | end | h | sum |    h | h |
|---+-------+-----+---+-----+------+---|
|   |    08 |  18 |   |  10 |      |   |
|   |    11 |  15 |   |   4 |      |   |
|   |    09 |  20 |   |  11 |      |   |
|   |    10 |  18 |   |   8 |      |   |
|   |       |     |   |     |      |   |
|---+-------+-----+---+-----+------+---|
|   |       |     |   |  33 | 8.25 |   |
#+TBLFM: $5=if(typeof($3-$2)==12, string(""), $3-$2);E::@>$5=vsum(@2..@-1);
#+TBLFM: @>$6=vmean(@2$5..@-1$5);

However, in the second table, if time durations are used, how can
an empty field be represented? For an empty row @6 the current
first formula always computes 00:00 as opposed to an empty field.
Unfortunately, later, vmean includes 00:00 in the computation,
instead of skipping it. That is why the second formula produces 06:29,
instead of 08:06 for @>$6. Is there a way to force the first formula
to produce a truly empty field? Or is there a way to tell vmean to
skip 00:00 durations?

#+TBLNAME: does_not_work_with_duration
| h | start |   end | h |   sum |     h | h |
|---+-------+-------+---+-------+-------+---|
|   | 08:54 | 18:01 |   | 09:07 |       |   |
|   | 11:45 | 15:50 |   | 04:05 |       |   |
|   | 09:20 | 20:23 |   | 11:03 |       |   |
|   | 10:25 | 18:37 |   | 08:12 |       |   |
|   |       |       |   | 00:00 |       |   |
|---+-------+-------+---+-------+-------+---|
|   |       |       |   | 32:27 | 06:29 |   |
#+TBLFM: $5=if(typeof($3-$2)==12, string(""), $3-$2);EU::@>$5=vsum(@2..@-1);U
#+TBLFM: @>$6=vmean(@2$5..@-1$5);U

Thank you for your help!

Kristof

Re: table formula, empty field, duration

[Bastien]

Hi Kristof,

Kristof Ralovich <kristof@ralovich.hu> writes:

> it appears to me that the concept of "empty field" is not defined for
> time durations, or it is quite different to how it is defined for
> numbers (using org-mode 9.1.9).
>
> In the first table, the empty row @6 produces an empty field for the sum
> ($5, first formula), that vmean is able to "skip" (second formula) and
> gives the expected result 8.25 (=33/4).
>
> #+TBLNAME: works_with_numbers
> | h | start | end | h | sum |    h | h |
>
> |---+-------+-----+---+-----+------+---|
> |   |    08 |  18 |   |  10 |      |   |
> |   |    11 |  15 |   |   4 |      |   |
> |   |    09 |  20 |   |  11 |      |   |
> |   |    10 |  18 |   |   8 |      |   |
> |   |       |     |   |     |      |   |
> |---+-------+-----+---+-----+------+---|
> |   |       |     |   |  33 | 8.25 |   |
>
> #+TBLFM: $5=if(typeof($3-$2)==12, string(""), $3-$2);E::@>$5=vsum(@2..@-1);
> #+TBLFM: @>$6=vmean(@2$5..@-1$5);

Can you provide a more minimal example?

The following table works correctly here (maint and master):

| mean1 | mean2 |
|-------+-------|
| 08:00 | 08:00 |
| 09:00 | 09:00 |
| 00:00 |       |
|-------+-------|
| 05:40 | 08:30 |
#+TBLFM: @5$1=vmean(@2..@-1);U
#+TBLFM: @5$2=vmean(@2..@-1);U

So I suspect this is something wrong with your first formula:

> #+TBLFM: $5=if(typeof($3-$2)==12, string(""), $3-$2);E

Let me know if you manage to nail down something more precise.

Thanks,

-- 
 Bastien