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We just need someone with knowledge of html/css to > jump in and create a patch for https://git.sr.ht/~bzg/worg (BTW, also > see shiny new https://sr.ht/~bzg/org/). > Sadly, it isn't that simple. You also have to understand how worg does the publishing and that isn't easy. I just looked at the repository - The .emacs.el file referenced in the worg-setup.org is not available (404 error) - The styles directory consists of a number of css files - not clear which one is used. (I'm guessing the .emacs.el file might tell me such details). - You also need to know about org publish and how it works, not just be familiar wiht html and css. As it stands now, without the .emacs.el file (which I'm assuming contains the org-publish-project-alist variable), you cannot do much or work out how the styles are generated/applied, so you cannot fix this. If the .emacs.el was either in the repo or the url referenced in the worg-setup.org file worked, that would help.