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In-Reply-To: <87ply8jbh2.fsf@localhost> References: <87ply8jbh2.fsf@localhost> Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2024 19:05:32 +0000 Message-ID: <87ttnht5oj.fsf@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=yantar92@posteo.net; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Queue-Id: B5E103F842 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx13.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.72 X-Spam-Score: -1.72 X-TUID: Z1hBzmi+QARN Ihor Radchenko writes: >> "Most scholarly works have citations and a bibliography or reference section," wrote a computer scientist [cite:@friends]. > >> As far as I can tell, there's nothing that can be done to the first >> citation object to make it use the "default" style. The >> document-level setting makes a new default, and because the original >> "default" has no name or style code, there's no way to get at it. > > You can just use [cite/nil:@friends]. I tried to clarify about the default style and #+cite_export keyword in the manual: https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git/commit/?id=56f6d8d1a https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git/commit/?id=83f17091e -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at