From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Richard Lawrence Subject: Re: [OT] Gnus mail tutorial? Date: Sat, 25 May 2013 15:29:03 -0700 Message-ID: <87sj1ar8wg.fsf@berkeley.edu> References: <20130525010056.0bb70583@aga-netbook> <87k3mn38wh.fsf@cern.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:39806) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UgN5N-0007Gq-69 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 25 May 2013 18:37:23 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UgN5G-0003BT-39 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 25 May 2013 18:37:13 -0400 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:58123) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UgN5F-0003BP-SS for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 25 May 2013 18:37:06 -0400 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UgN5E-00066S-VA for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 26 May 2013 00:37:04 +0200 Received: from c-50-161-39-52.hsd1.ca.comcast.net ([50.161.39.52]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 26 May 2013 00:37:04 +0200 Received: from richard.lawrence by c-50-161-39-52.hsd1.ca.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 26 May 2013 00:37:04 +0200 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Jacek Generowicz writes: > Marcin Borkowski writes: > >> I'm thinking about using Emacs as my email client, and I'm considering >> using Gnus for that. > > If it is Emacs rather than Gnus itself that attracts you, then you might > consider notmuch or mu4e. Both have a Xapian-based core, and include an > Emacs interface. +1. I used Gnus with an IMAP account for a while, but found that (in addition to being intimidating and complicated) it was annoyingly slow. I did write a brief tutorial about getting it set up, which you may or may not find useful; it's at [1]. I still use Gnus to read news (e.g., this list, via Gmane), which is much simpler to set up, and pretty handy. After abandoning Gnus for mail, but wishing to remain in Emacs, I tried nmh with MH-E as a front end. I liked MH-E well enough, but the big problem was that I couldn't find any program to sync mail in both directions from MH directories, and I want a local copy of my mail on multiple machines which reflects the state on the IMAP server. So, long story short, I have now switched to using offlineimap to sync over IMAP with a Maildir. This keeps my mail locally available but also in sync across multiple machines. I read this Maildir in mutt, not Gnus, because I read nasty things on the Internet about how Gnus' Maildir implementation really stinks (e.g., it uses its own tagging system instead of the standard Maildir flags, and it eats up inodes on your filesystem like crazy). I use notmuch to index it, and notmuch-mode in Emacs to search it. I have my mutt editor set to emacsclient. It ain't perfect, by any means (and if anyone has suggestions on a better setup, I'd love to hear them), but it works for me. [1] http://whereofwecannotspeak.wordpress.com/2009/07/15/getting-gnus-to-read-mail-over-imap/ -- Best, Richard