From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Marcin Borkowski Subject: Re: ox-latex: default packages cleaning Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 00:16:30 +0200 Message-ID: <87si8qmlkx.fsf@mbork.pl> References: <87r3ok589c.fsf@gmx.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41831) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZF8VI-0004JZ-UI for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Jul 2015 18:16:46 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZF8VD-000401-QW for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Jul 2015 18:16:44 -0400 Received: from mail.mojserwer.eu ([2a01:5e00:2:52::8]:33102) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZF8VD-0003zc-JC for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Jul 2015 18:16:39 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.mojserwer.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBD764FA047 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2015 00:16:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.mojserwer.eu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.mojserwer.eu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9gsuki0DOcEx for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2015 00:16:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (unknown [109.232.24.146]) by mail.mojserwer.eu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E836D4FA03B for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2015 00:16:35 +0200 (CEST) In-reply-to: <87r3ok589c.fsf@gmx.us> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org On 2015-07-07, at 16:53, Rasmus wrote: > Hi, Hi, and sorry for my delay =E2=80=93 I have a huge email backlog... > We could do some cleaning of org-default-package-alist before Org 8.3. Yes, yes, yes! > * tolerance > > Why is "\\tolerance=3D1000" part of org-default-package-alist? Is this > value good for all languages? If we keep it, it should be configurable= . > But people who explicitly wants this behavior can probably add it > themselves. > > If it's a means to archive "high-quality" paragraphs, maybe microtype i= s > probably the 'proper' fix... My suggestion: forget about \tolerance. It=E2=80=99s low-level TeX stuff= , hardly anybody knows what it does, really (it is one of the dozen or two parameters governing the line-breaking algorithm), and most people would not see any difference anyway. I wouldn=E2=80=99t add microtype, OTOH. = One reason: it issues a lot of warnings when you use a font it does not know. It doesn=E2=80=99t hurt, but some people don=E2=80=99t like warnin= gs. Also, some people might not really /want/ microtype =E2=80=93 it messes around with = font widths, and even with the default settings (which are rather conservative), it can look a bit strange. > * Fixltx2e > > This packages is depreciated with TL2015 cf. LaTeX News 22. We can use > \RequirePackage[current]{latexrelease} but there's no point in that.... > AFAIK latexrelease only useful for backwards compatibility. Didn=E2=80=99t even know that. > * marvosym=EF=BB=BF=C2=B9=20 > * Wasysym=EF=BB=BF=C2=B2=20 My opinion: remove both. > Rasmus Best, --=20 Marcin Borkowski http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science Adam Mickiewicz University