can't install footnotes in certain table cells

can't install footnotes in certain table cells

[Uwe Brauer]

Hi 

In the following table:

It is possible to insert a footnote in a regular way, right now I cannot.


What shell I do? What is the recipe to insert footnotes in all cells.


Thanks 

Uwe Brauer 

| this | that |     |   |     | F |   |   |
|------+------+-----+---+-----+---+---+---|
|      |    2 | *2* | 1 | [ ] |   |   |   |
|------+------+-----+---+-----+---+---+---|

[can't insert footnotes in all table cells] (was: can't install footnotes in certain table cells)

[Uwe Brauer]

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>>> "UB" == Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es> writes:

> Hi 

> In the following table:

The subject is wrong, I am still googling but don't understand why I
cannot insert footnotes in all cells in a table.

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[org-footnote--allow-reference-p] (was: [can't insert footnotes in all table cells])

[Uwe Brauer]

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>>> "UB" == Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es> writes:

>>> "UB" == Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es> writes:
>> Hi 

>> In the following table:

> The subject is wrong, I am still googling but don't understand why I
> cannot insert footnotes in all cells in a table.

It seems that the function org-footnote--allow-reference-p 
is the culprit, but which places are *forbidden* the doc string does not
say much.

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Re: [org-footnote--allow-reference-p]

[Juan Manuel Macías]

Hi Uwe,

Uwe Brauer writes:

> It seems that the function org-footnote--allow-reference-p 
> is the culprit, but which places are *forbidden* the doc string does not
> say much.

If you mean to insert a note in an empty cell, you can insert just
before the note mark a zero width space (M-x insert-char RET 200b RET)

Best regards,

Juan Manuel 

Re: [org-footnote--allow-reference-p]

[Uwe Brauer]

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>>> "JMM" == Juan Manuel Macías <maciaschain@posteo.net> writes:

> Hi Uwe,
> Uwe Brauer writes:

>> It seems that the function org-footnote--allow-reference-p 
>> is the culprit, but which places are *forbidden* the doc string does not
>> say much.

> If you mean to insert a note in an empty cell, you can insert just
> before the note mark a zero width space (M-x insert-char RET 200b RET)

Ah! That was it, thanks!
I think the documentation of org-footnote-action
could be a bit more explicit and cover this case.

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Re: [org-footnote--allow-reference-p]

[Juan Manuel Macías]

Uwe Brauer writes:

> Ah! That was it, thanks!
> I think the documentation of org-footnote-action
> could be a bit more explicit and cover this case.

In the manual the use of the zero width space character is in the section
'Escape Character'. Perhaps it would be nice to add more usage examples. A
very typical (and practical) use is when you want to emphasize a part of a
word:

with /meta/<zero-with-space>literature you get (LaTeX)
\emph{meta}literature instead of the literal /meta/literature...

Best regards,

Juan Manuel 

Re: [org-footnote--allow-reference-p]

[Nicolas Goaziou]

Hello,

Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es> writes:

>> The subject is wrong, I am still googling but don't understand why I
>> cannot insert footnotes in all cells in a table.

There was a bug with _empty_ cells.

> It seems that the function org-footnote--allow-reference-p 
> is the culprit

Fixed. Thank you.

> but which places are *forbidden* the doc string does not say much.

`org-footnote--allow-reference-p' is very permissive. Footnote are
allowed anywhere it makes sense, I think. The function is also well
documented, you may want to look at the source if you have doubts.

Regards,
-- 
Nicolas Goaziou

Re: [org-footnote--allow-reference-p]

[Uwe Brauer]

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>>> "NG" == Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> writes:

> Hello,
> Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es> writes:

>>> The subject is wrong, I am still googling but don't understand why I
>>> cannot insert footnotes in all cells in a table.

> There was a bug with _empty_ cells.

>> It seems that the function org-footnote--allow-reference-p 
>> is the culprit

> Fixed. Thank you.


In master?  
>> but which places are *forbidden* the doc string does not say much.

> `org-footnote--allow-reference-p' is very permissive. Footnote are
> allowed anywhere it makes sense, I think. The function is also well
> documented, you may want to look at the source if you have doubts.

The docstring just reads 

  "Non-nil when a footnote reference can be inserted at point."


That I wouldn't call well documented, but I presume you are referring to
something else.


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Re: [org-footnote--allow-reference-p]

[Nicolas Goaziou]

Hello,

Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es> writes:

>>>> "NG" == Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> writes:

> In master?

No, in both maint and master.

>> `org-footnote--allow-reference-p' is very permissive. Footnote are
>> allowed anywhere it makes sense, I think. The function is also well
>> documented, you may want to look at the source if you have doubts.
>
> The docstring just reads 
>
>   "Non-nil when a footnote reference can be inserted at point."
>
> That I wouldn't call well documented, but I presume you are referring to
> something else.

I think the docstring is sufficient for an internal function. I was
referring to the code, which contains comments about all the gory
details.

Regards,
-- 
Nicolas Goaziou

[the latest master] (was: [org-footnote--allow-reference-p])

[Uwe Brauer]

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>>> "NG" == Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> writes:

> Hello,
> Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es> writes:

>>> The subject is wrong, I am still googling but don't understand why I
>>> cannot insert footnotes in all cells in a table.

> There was a bug with _empty_ cells.

>> It seems that the function org-footnote--allow-reference-p 
>> is the culprit

> Fixed. Thank you.


Hm I pull from 

git remote -v
origin  https://code.orgmode.org/bzg/org-mode.git (fetch)
origin  https://code.orgmode.org/bzg/org-mode.git (push)

So that is the old repository, no, because the latest commit is from 19
April, where do I find the real repository 

https://orgmode.org/worg/dev/index.html

Still points out the one I use 

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Re: [the latest master]

[Uwe Brauer]

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>>> "UB" == Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es> writes:

>>> "NG" == Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> writes:
>> Hello,
>> Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es> writes:

>>> The subject is wrong, I am still googling but don't understand why I
>>> cannot insert footnotes in all cells in a table.

>> There was a bug with _empty_ cells.

>>> It seems that the function org-footnote--allow-reference-p 
>>> is the culprit

>> Fixed. Thank you.


> Hm I pull from 

> git remote -v
> origin  https://code.orgmode.org/bzg/org-mode.git (fetch)
> origin  https://code.orgmode.org/bzg/org-mode.git (push)

Sorry, git just did not pull [1]
I had to run 
git stash


Footnotes:
[1]  (I most likely will never gasp git, a pity that the team did not
     chose  not mercurial). I am thinking to clone the git repo again
     with using hg and the hg-git repository.


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