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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1664348832; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=bwIZrJJiOMlMRjxZcatd/jKpjMeAMi+Z7rdErPqxCj0=; b=e7c9rhfqrAQ+O8r/hkZSEzlvyTF/YT4P4IkhAoDUu4ECPfvud/iv4TXEegL4mvzV7iU2gs HHKFiwr8li13+DE16T7fWh17snTaKrNQufraMRWUAz96ODujkNsrcR4uShBggvdDdELFdA A9GJxyoraYQsvxI706rS1EssQpOo3kHP23CbMyKyuKX8muzKnEX+9RtTGTube0lEhocD9g 1cMo6XsQu/+ohV7a841+6L5/fwEEf3Jb7iKwvcAY+lzaTy/h/750zPOvraGZ8yKVy/cJVk iyngQkv4vsdcbSQKy4xP2BS8Gz0Fxpp942stzmtvxMuBDXtvfwBPYCqzuJIzHw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1664348832; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=kyDkSXptjw2ySJL3Ko+suEsdOWM4QaBbvHrX1kmgerps7AzJulnPXWbLPpkc/FngYndpWJ 3YlUNqjMaH8VQKgy2kokSU44LVlUmCiGhKGc6F97SSpBtPdmXJj0g+47ChfPQIUpkh1kr8 zbPyNSU8nAP+bDQo5GujYI8Z9dMn/uJdhUwG2nJPF3vqzJRTcXYNULQMtpHu9Sg1w1u8JT YOdrwPJiW7RlHuVpvHYmrWhKXEWRA8vu29+7PvrtGMt841pVUSrayUImlIANNQ3rewGTm8 SZLtXl4cXPjnmzEWZVMcvOlIToGxVAC/BjbTbzexN0hcoAZuD5BhceYwjCbAMA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gnu.org header.s=fencepost-gnu-org header.b=IJUbGelK; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -7.85 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gnu.org header.s=fencepost-gnu-org header.b=IJUbGelK; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: A5EC22E4CC X-Spam-Score: -7.85 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: tz5kFg9SFyHR Ihor Radchenko writes: > Discourse does allow anonymous email replies. > https://blog.discourse.org/2016/07/reply-by-email-enabled-for-all-discourse-customers/ > (search "unregistered") I did not know that - thanks for the pointer. I'd interested in exploring a use-case: does anyone know of a Discourse instance that is *fully* bridged with a mailing list? In the hypothesis of 1. someone maintains a Discourse instance for Org users 2. this instance proves to be very useful to many Org users 3. we find an example of a full ML/Discourse bridge that works 3. Org maintainers decide at some point to promote it from org-mode-community-forum.org to forum.orgmode.org then I'd be in favor of a *partial* bridge with the list, forwarding only topics that have a "ML" category, for example. This way forum.orgmode.org would compete with reddit, stackoverflow, etc. as a user-to-user platform without competing with the list as the place to contribute to Org's development. This is the same reasoning than the one I presented on how to handle third-places like reddit/SO: it is good if they offer various ways for users to interact with each other *provided* that we have a good way to ensure that we the ML don't lose those interactions that belongs to the ML (bug reports, patches, feature requests, etc.) - the "way" here is to ask for Org contributor stewards on these places. I hope this all makes sense - I suggest we revisit this topics in a few months, so that we can all focus on releasing Org 9.6. -- Bastien