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From: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de>
To: Org Mode List <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Plotting a table of date+time pairs
Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2024 11:50:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ser3pvr3.fsf@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87iks2qnr1.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> (Eric Fraga's message of "Mon, 2 Dec 2024 12:21:22 +0000")

"Fraga, Eric" <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> writes:

> > I now have one remaining problem: my time values in the second column
> > contain the name of the time zone - the purpose is to flag the time as
> > summer or winter time.  Currently I need to remove these indicators from
> > the table, else plotting fail, gnuplot doesn't understand the data.
>
> You can specify the format of dates/times in gnuplot and then manipulate
> them.  See "time/date specifiers" in the gnuplot info manual and also
> read about the strptime() function.  I don't have any examples of these
> at hand unfortunately.

Yes thanks - but I really think Org gets it wrong.  Look:
With

| plot data using 1:(timecolumn(2,"%H:%M") ...

gnuplot happily accepts a data file looking like

| 2024-09-18      11:40 CEST
| 2024-09-19      11:27 CEST
|    ...             ...

It just discards the timezone which is good enough.  No problem with the
kind of data for gnuplot (AFAIR I read in the gnuplot manual that time
zones are not supported ad-hoc - anyway, I don't need this for
plotting.)

But the real problem is that the org table export mechanism thinks that
the time field doesn't look like a numerical field, so it wraps every
such field in quotes, and the exported data file will look like

| 2024-09-18      "11:40 CEST"
| 2024-09-19      "11:27 CEST"
|    ...             ...

instead.  Then gnuplot doesn't find data matching "%H:%M in the second
column of the data file and interprets it as zero or 00:00am or
whatever.

Can I make gnuplot disregard the quotation marks?  Else I must tell org
that these fields should not be quoted.  But ironically the only way I
know to do this is again a hack: I must adjust
`org-table-number-regexp' which... sounds like a good solution but since
org disregards a file local binding I must change the global binding of
the variable!  Ugh.  Better solutions welcome.


Thanks,

Michael.


  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-04 10:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-28  1:21 Plotting a table of date+time pairs Michael Heerdegen
2024-11-28  9:27 ` Fraga, Eric
2024-11-28 23:17   ` Michael Heerdegen
2024-11-29  9:30     ` Fraga, Eric
2024-11-30  6:17       ` Michael Heerdegen
2024-11-30  6:48         ` Michael Heerdegen
2024-12-02 12:21         ` Fraga, Eric
2024-12-04 10:50           ` Michael Heerdegen [this message]
2024-12-04 11:51             ` Fraga, Eric
2024-12-04 13:47               ` Michael Heerdegen
2024-12-04 14:02                 ` Fraga, Eric
2024-11-29 15:21     ` Max Nikulin

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