From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Rasmus Subject: Re: [ANN] Bibliography support ODT + JabRef Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:39:29 +0200 Message-ID: <87r4eg5qum.fsf@gmx.us> References: <87fvvbzlgr.fsf@gmail.com> <87vc40nh59.fsf@gmail.com> <87vc3uonao.fsf@gmail.com> <87ehaihhts.fsf@gmail.com> <87vc3uwo80.fsf@gmail.com> <87ob9mfotu.fsf@gmail.com> <87li4q9dt6.fsf@gmail.com> <87y58opree.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47168) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V46PV-0003hg-RX for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 05:40:14 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V46PO-0005e3-FQ for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 05:40:05 -0400 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:39117) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V46PO-0005du-60 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 05:39:58 -0400 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1V46PH-0008JH-Uc for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:39:51 +0200 Received: from business-213-023-238-209.static.arcor-ip.net ([213.23.238.209]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:39:51 +0200 Received: from rasmus by business-213-023-238-209.static.arcor-ip.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:39:51 +0200 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Jambunathan K writes: > feng shu writes: > >> 1. When I add (setq org-odt-data-dir "~/project/org-mode/etc/") to my . >> emacs file, it works properly, Thanks! >> >> 2. Two question: >> 1. How can I get uppercite: test^[1] instead of test[1]? >> 2. How can I get compressed cite,like: test^[3, 5, 7-10, 16] > > Thanks for the requests. > > Numbering is done by ox-jabref.el and not by JabRef application, so > these requests can indeed be met with 5-15 minute of effort. But I > hesitate to > > The main problem is there are just too many styles a Bibliographic > Reference can be typeset - right from what some standard says, to what > my university wants to what I prefer myself. > > This is where some sort of common agreement - even just among the > members of the community - will help. I will keep listening to the > conversation and hopefully an opinion will emerge during the course of > time. Aren't these "just" a question of the style file used from Jabref (but currently written by Jambunathan)? More to the point, can someone with reasonable effort write a new style? If that's the case a less styles can shipped and more styles can be user-submission (e.g. org-cite-styles in elpa?). IMO authordate, numeric (using names from table below) should be included. I agree with Feng that comp variations are nice. Alphabetic, verbose and authortitle are nice to have, but I wouldn't use them. Also, what are the limitations of the complexity that can be handled by this scheme? Can one have a distinction between style and type of citation, e.g. combine a inline-citation style with a bibliography citation style? Is something like footcite a property of the citation or of the style? Just for the reference, these are the default in-text citation styles of biblatex (section 3.3.1). So in Biblatex-terms Feng is asking for numeric-comp with \supercite{·}. NAME STYLE ======================================================================== numeric [8, 3, 1, 7, 2] numeric-comp [1–3, 7, 8] numeric-verb [2]; [5]; [6] alphabetic [Doe92; Doe95; Jon98] alphabetic-verb [Doe92]; [Doe95]; [Jon98] authoryear Doe 1995b; Doe 1992; Jones 1998; Doe 1995a authoryear-comp Doe 1992, 1995a,b; Jones 1998 alphabetic-verb Doe 1992, 1995a,b; Jones 1998 authoryear-ibid replaces repeated citations by the abbreviation ibidem authortitle Doe, First title; Doe, Second title authortitle-comp Doe,First title, Second title authortitle-ibid replaces repeated citations by the abbreviation ibidem authortitle-icomp A style combining the features authortitle-terse authortitle but only prints the title if the bibliography contains more than one work authortitle-tcomp authortitle-comp and authortitle-terse. authortitle-ticomp authortitle-tcomp style with an ibidem feature. verbose full citation as bibliography entry then short citation in footnote verbose-ibid replaces repeated citations by the abbreviation ibidem verbose-note short citation is a pointer to the footnote with the full citation verbose-inote verbose-note with ibidem verbose-trad1: verbose butt uses the scholarly abbreviations ibidem, idem, op. cit., and loc. cit. verbose-trad2 ibidem and idem in repeated citations. verbose-trad3 useses op. cit. in a slightly different way. draft entry keys in citations ======================================================================== -- There are known knowns; there are things we know that we know.