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From: Nick Dokos <ndokos@gmail.com>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#32722:  bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ?
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 16:21:33 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r2hrvprm.fsf@alphaville.usersys.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87in35mxpu.fsf@alphapapa.net

Adam Porter <adam@alphapapa.net> writes:

> I'm not an expert on this package nor this situation, however, looking
> at the htmlize.el file shows:
>
>     ;; Copyright (C) 1997-2003,2005,2006,2009,2011,2012,2014,2017,2018
>
> So it would appear that the package has existed longer than either
> GitHub or Org.  I'm guessing that its author moved its primary repo to
> GitHub after Org started using it.
>
> In hindsight, perhaps it would have been better to move htmlize into
> Emacs before adding it to Org proper.  But many things are clearer in
> hindsight.
>
> Regardless of where it is hosted, htmlize.el is Free Software, and it's
> an optional addon to Org.  We can encourage its author to add it to
> Emacs proper, or to ELPA.  But surely it's not necessary to censor the
> mention of "GitHub" in the manual; it's simply a fact that GitHub exists
> and that htmlize.el is currently hosted there.  It would seem
> unreasonable for the Org maintainers to have reacted to htmlize.el's
> moving to GitHub by removing htmlize.el support while it remains Free
> Software, yet that's the logical conclusion of this argument.
>

I had exactly the same reaction.

> So please do not remove support for this package because of where its
> repo happens to be hosted at the moment.  That would be a major
> regression, and it would not be in users' best interests.  It would not
> be fair to remove a major feature used by thousands of users and demand
> that "someone" (since there is no one ultimately responsible) rewrite
> large parts of ox-html.el to fix it.  It would at least seem fair for
> those insisting on the change to do the necessary work.
>

I don't usually +1 replies but I wanted to chime in my agreement with
Adam here.  Thanks for taking the time to put your (and my!) thoughts
into words.

If Github is indeed the sticking point, why can't it (the htmlize
repo) be cloned on the same server as org-mode (possibly as its own
repo, possibly as a git submodule)? It's not a fast moving target: a
handful or two of commits per year. The doc can then avoid the Gihub
ref (although it does seem silly to pretend that Github does not
exist).

-- 
Nick

"There are only two hard problems in computer science: cache
invalidation, naming things, and off-by-one errors." -Martin Fowler

  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-17 20:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <531a7f93882cc0d5d09700457d06ea082f47569b.camel@flqt.fr>
2018-09-13  3:35 ` bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ? Richard Stallman
     [not found] ` <83zhwmlnst.fsf@gnu.org>
2018-09-13  7:33   ` Nicolas Floquet
     [not found] ` <E1g0IPY-000465-4I@fencepost.gnu.org>
2018-09-13 15:26   ` Glenn Morris
     [not found]   ` <tqd0thctb6.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>
2018-09-13 15:36     ` Kaushal Modi
2018-09-13 21:58       ` bug#32722: " Samuel Wales
2018-09-13 21:58       ` Samuel Wales
2018-09-13 21:58       ` Samuel Wales
2018-09-14  2:55       ` bug#32722: " Richard Stallman
     [not found]       ` <E1g0eGJ-0002Ws-Gt@fencepost.gnu.org>
2018-09-14  6:04         ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-16 12:30           ` Adam Porter
2018-09-17 20:21             ` Nick Dokos [this message]
2018-09-18 13:12               ` Bernt Hansen
     [not found]         ` <83sh2ck42e.fsf@gnu.org>
2018-09-18  9:37           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-09-18 11:49             ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-18 14:21               ` Nick Dokos
2018-09-18 14:49                 ` Kaushal Modi
     [not found]             ` <83zhwff2k8.fsf@gnu.org>
2018-09-18 12:14               ` bug#32722: " Robert Klein
2018-09-19  3:41                 ` Richard Stallman
2018-09-19  7:22                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-18 14:43             ` Nicolas Floquet
     [not found]             ` <dbc243f2281e5b97b59d543f8e29559b1ffdc38f.camel@flqt.fr>
2018-09-18 16:37               ` bug#32722: " Robert Horn
2018-09-19  3:41               ` Richard Stallman
2018-09-19 12:29                 ` Nicolas Goaziou
     [not found]                 ` <87h8ilfz6o.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
2018-09-20  1:50                   ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]                   ` <E1g2o6s-0008PG-JL@fencepost.gnu.org>
2018-09-20 12:40                     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-09-20 12:59                     ` Bingo UV
2018-09-21  2:13                       ` Richard Stallman
2018-09-21 19:21                         ` bug#32722: bug#32722: " Leslie Watter
     [not found]                         ` <CAKoz4gnvbc1tTGW57c_7cVN0gF2KrgAjYRT+kwp29fMOYX3RCA@mail.gmail.com>
2018-09-23  1:38                           ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]                           ` <E1g3tLf-0003Es-KN@fencepost.gnu.org>
2018-09-29 14:53                             ` Nicolas Goaziou
     [not found]                             ` <87mus0z773.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
2018-09-29 15:09                               ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                               ` <83in2o5oi3.fsf@gnu.org>
2018-09-29 18:33                                 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-09-29 18:58                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                                   ` <83ftxs5dvw.fsf@gnu.org>
2018-09-29 23:35                                     ` bug#32722: " Kyle Meyer
2018-09-30 11:43                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                                       ` <83y3bj43d8.fsf@gnu.org>
2020-05-24  8:03                                         ` bug#32722: [O] " Bastien
2018-09-30  9:27                               ` Michael Albinus
2018-10-22  9:39                                 ` Nicolas Goaziou
     [not found]                                 ` <87r2giz5ey.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
2018-10-22 11:07                                   ` Michael Albinus
     [not found]                                   ` <871s8is0i6.fsf@gmx.de>
2018-10-22 13:17                                     ` Nicolas Goaziou
     [not found]                     ` <87worggx5b.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
2018-09-20 14:31                       ` Michael Albinus
     [not found]               ` <m3tvmm4v8m.fsf@panix.com>
2018-09-18 16:53                 ` bug#32722: " Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                 ` <83efdqg32d.fsf@gnu.org>
2018-09-18 18:53                   ` bug#32722: " Robert Klein
2018-09-18 20:41                   ` Glenn Morris
     [not found]                   ` <vain32bksv.fsf_-_@fencepost.gnu.org>
2018-09-18 21:07                     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-09-19  3:39                     ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]                     ` <87lg7yfraw.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
2018-09-18 22:08                       ` bug#32722: " Amin Bandali
2018-09-19 21:16                         ` bug#32722: " Kaushal Modi
2018-09-20  1:54                           ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]                           ` <E1g2oAo-0000ao-2k@fencepost.gnu.org>
2018-09-20  4:24                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-20 10:43                             ` bug#32722: " Joe Corneli
     [not found]                             ` <CAN+qofnbqV8MT0wmKNokXv0S8f9PnXcpK1RdsH-8Zb2i8ckNPw@mail.gmail.com>
2018-09-21  2:13                               ` Richard Stallman
2018-09-21 10:22                                 ` Joe Corneli
     [not found]                                 ` <m2zhwbup3a.fsf@dhcp-90-218.inf.ed.ac.uk>
2018-09-22  1:52                                   ` Richard Stallman
2018-09-20  5:43                           ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                           ` <83h8ikenbc.fsf@gnu.org>
2018-09-20  8:13                             ` bug#32722: " Robert Klein
2018-09-20 19:17                             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-09-20 23:17                               ` Adam Porter
2018-09-21  0:39                                 ` Kaushal Modi
2018-09-21  1:54                                   ` Adam Porter
2018-09-21 21:30                                     ` Kaushal Modi
     [not found]                             ` <87in30geqo.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
2018-09-20 20:50                               ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                               ` <835zyzevvt.fsf@gnu.org>
2018-10-22 13:13                                 ` Nicolas Goaziou
     [not found]                                 ` <87d0s2yvi4.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
2018-10-22 13:48                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-19  3:39                       ` Richard Stallman
2018-09-19  7:02                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-20  5:21                         ` Adam Porter
     [not found]                       ` <831s9qezqo.fsf@gnu.org>
2018-09-20 17:42                         ` Nicolas Goaziou
     [not found]                         ` <87muscgj51.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
2018-09-20 20:48                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-21  2:18                           ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]                     ` <E1g2TLB-000734-Os@fencepost.gnu.org>
2018-09-19  7:04                       ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                       ` <83zhwedl2v.fsf@gnu.org>
2018-09-20  1:50                         ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]                         ` <E1g2o79-0008S6-UV@fencepost.gnu.org>
2018-09-20  4:22                           ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                           ` <83lg7wer1z.fsf@gnu.org>
2018-09-21  2:18                             ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]                             ` <E1g3B16-0004U1-2g@fencepost.gnu.org>
2019-05-16 15:16                               ` Nicolas Floquet
     [not found]                               ` <c20679912a5c2644bf6e62a65b7c4da118d988f5.camel@flqt.fr>
2019-05-16 15:25                                 ` Nicolas Floquet
     [not found]                                 ` <3554abc2df1167f5b052b021670bbd09fae6dd6f.camel@flqt.fr>
2019-06-09 16:54                                   ` bug#32722: " Amin Bandali
     [not found]                   ` <20180918205329.2e12c16f@happy.intern.roklein.de>
2018-09-18 18:57                     ` bug#32722: bug#32722: " Kaushal Modi
2018-09-18 19:29                       ` Kaushal Modi
2018-09-19  3:39                         ` Richard Stallman
2018-09-19  3:39                     ` Richard Stallman
2018-09-25 23:04                     ` Richard Stallman
2018-09-19  3:40                 ` Richard Stallman
2018-09-24  9:54                 ` Nicolas Floquet

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