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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=default; t=1586269280; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=ANS2GTW66T4aQYuJX7ApzvZbj+Rr/0zFBOxt+Rmq3I8=; b=ZKhGwlQRGyXPYC57lvyYf8EpP5VzP5TzJnT02OfUJr6b7Q0oEV4n6M7Uobv5v6rK1XYud1 QUq2n4YdHtAsIB+O7SJUZRYb/TB4HwM1Th+YR2JvIbENmaEo+tc8klaUw/xgOGis4dWmSU Ge23ynnN63xN4Auuy6DSoaS4kiobC2Q= ARC-Seal: i=1; s=default; d=yhetil.org; t=1586269280; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=CvWXHwuQws5eq06nMp9dZL3D+aAjAXzUUSUYygbhG5QJ0Li3YIiffQICZogCDuhOSdydDv tEJM+d8IDQ09rD+oZYcGvajBJ5QSFzCjCfz9ATh/TVVryTITIeOQOsG+mCOzOSvo+GSrj5 Nyr0VeMdUz7aTCsFCpfMUiucwW46ELk= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx2.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=plus.com header.s=042019 header.b=rFtSoV6u; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx2.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Scanner: scn0 X-Spam-Score: -0.21 Authentication-Results: aspmx2.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=plus.com header.s=042019 header.b=rFtSoV6u; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx2.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Scan-Result: default: False [-0.21 / 13.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; GENERIC_REPUTATION(0.00)[-0.58251825860433]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:209.51.188.0/24:c]; IP_REPUTATION_HAM(0.00)[asn: 22989(0.32), country: US(-0.01), ip: 209.51.188.17(-0.58)]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; ARC_SIGNED(0.00)[i=1]; MX_GOOD(-0.50)[cached: eggs.gnu.org]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[plus.com:+]; MAILLIST(-0.20)[mailman]; FORGED_RECIPIENTS_MAILLIST(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:22989, ipnet:209.51.188.0/24, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[larch=yhetil.org]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[boudiccas@skimble.plus.com,emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[6]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[plus.com:s=042019]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[plus.com]; HAS_LIST_UNSUB(-0.01)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FORGED_SENDER_MAILLIST(0.00)[] X-TUID: OpWo5WmwzdXk Eric S Fraga writes: Thanks for replying Eric. > On Tuesday, 7 Apr 2020 at 10:49, Sharon Kimble wrote: >> But, I'm using 'tabbar' and I've had to break the file up into 3 >> separate org-mode files because otherwise the buffer I'm working on >> drops out of tabbar into its own frame. (File 1 is 1.5mbs, 2 is 1.1mbs, >> and 3 is 413kbs.) > > Can you please explain this in more detail? How does a buffer "drop out > of tabbar"? I can't explain it, but suddenly the buffer that I'm using loses its separate tab in tabbar, as if its suddenly created a frame for itself. It was most disturbing when it happened. > > Are you using the old tabbar.el implementation or the new tab-bar > implementation available since Emacs v27? I'm using tabbar from MELPA. I have tried Emacs-27 tab-mode but it seemed to me that it wouldn't fit my case, where my tabbar groups all org-mode buffers, and ditto my gnus mail buffers. > >> I have 'vlf' acting in my setup, but how can I avoid the file dropping >> out of tabbar please? > > Ah, maybe it is the fault of vlf. Your files are not that large so do > you really need to use vlf? I'm not convinced that I am actually using vlf. I'm configured to use files up to 20mbs, and if necessary I could include a greater amount, after all I do have 64gigs of ram available! > > In any case, I'm not sure this is an org issue (but that could be > because I've not understood your problem) so you may have better luck in > the emacs help group. I think that I've found a way round the problem, where I use just one file for my converted website to org-mode buffer, but I can toggle tabbar off, so I only show the buffer that I'm working on, and when necessary I'll call the bibliography to the right of buffer, and also the glossary underneath my main buffer. And then when I need to I can just toggle tabbar back on again, and it all works nicely again. Thanks Sharon. -- A taste of linux = http://www.sharons.org.uk TGmeds = http://www.tgmeds.org.uk DrugFacts = https://www.drugfacts.org.uk Debian 10.2, fluxbox 1.3.7, emacs 27.0.90, org 9.3.6