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[180.150.91.8]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id n12sm12676597pjt.16.2020.11.02.07.35.59 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 02 Nov 2020 07:36:00 -0800 (PST) References: <1187707.1604326959@apollo2.minshall.org> <87mtzz958l.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <20201102152333.GL6609@maokai> User-agent: mu4e 1.4.13; emacs 27.1 From: TEC To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Subject: Re: Thoughts on the standardization of Org Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2020 23:31:16 +0800 In-reply-to: <20201102152333.GL6609@maokai> Message-ID: <87r1pb6aar.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::52a; envelope-from=tecosaur@gmail.com; helo=mail-pg1-x52a.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Scanner: ns3122888.ip-94-23-21.eu Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=jFY53Qwu; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.71 X-TUID: twQCb5ARFLUs Russell Adams writes: > On Mon, Nov 02, 2020 at 02:56:58PM +0000, Eric S Fraga wrote: >> (as an aside, Emacs as an LSP could be interesting, especially=20 >> if >> network based) > > LSP is a standard from Microsoft: > https://github.com/Microsoft/language-server-protocol/ > > It allows networked JSON and telemetry, as well as all the other > problems that come from trusting the remote server: > https://microsoft.github.io/language-server-protocol/specifications/speci= fication-current/#telemetry_event > > Either of these items would provide justification for me to=20 > exclude > LSP from any personal consideration, and for me to strongly=20 > recommend > against it's use in any capacity. > > Microsoft and related technologies have no place in my Emacs. I=20 > don't > care to see Org made easy or functional in Visual Studio. > > Why contribute to layers which allow an illegal monopoly more > market share? Why code for them for free? Because it's supported by: Atom, Brackets, Delphi, Eclipse, Emacs,=20 Kakoune, Kate, VSCode, NeoVim, Sublime Text 3, JupyterLab, and more =F0=9F=99=83. -- Timothy