From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp2 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id 4D1SJryfwF/TVQAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 06:42:04 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp2 with LMTPS id MKlPIryfwF9KFgAAB5/wlQ (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 06:42:04 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C73FD9403C9 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 06:42:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:55802 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kiXSE-0005JG-Oc for larch@yhetil.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 01:42:02 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45046) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kiXR7-0005HP-Pq for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 01:40:53 -0500 Received: from pb-smtp1.pobox.com ([64.147.108.70]:57782) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kiXR0-0002I4-Cu for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 01:40:53 -0500 Received: from pb-smtp1.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp1.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9A4CA9B74; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 01:40:45 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kyle@kyleam.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=sasl; bh=SPB11iaBqAqTLq5Jcl2QoX3q+ZM=; b=iWIFaO1GIKXe3rbQ+tBm SmBUHmYT1Gl92U3WTqjty+g8k//xLyfyn1FEREhx0/Mee1m6r11KTXH71dSvp6lb kM29JyAGL3QsCbsaFmF+SYKLNah65Sj75rFc3bVyAjnjfuWU8rTEoSQZ9mZLfuKi BIiJrnyKZBrjusITLTuwWr8= Received: from pb-smtp1.nyi.icgroup.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp1.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D06E5A9B73; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 01:40:45 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kyle@kyleam.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=kyleam.com; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=mesmtp; bh=+egOjJS5XuDp/qljdDKVx8zvqJIZemGKyQXtpAyaPHw=; b=JrklGC9N/ZWvgXkU1sIhNRwaY7yyCePR1j+zpB+0ThWLVCw/iaGV5pvr3T9B3IXWiSlQMklL/PeK7aR3EQJJQZ8nryyS2ik6H3gB1ivwPRDUHQWgM6YDx3UZHyVoLeraEtutrP0bgWrfUsSvJlWgrlQo9MckM8/i/uG6VXe2OBw= Received: from localhost (unknown [45.33.91.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pb-smtp1.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 563E4A9B72; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 01:40:45 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kyle@kyleam.com) From: Kyle Meyer To: Daniele Nicolodi Subject: Re: [PATCH] doc/org-manual.org: Extend table formulas Lisp form documentation In-Reply-To: <932e0bdf-4738-ad95-64fd-e7cd6ea660e6@grinta.net> X-Woof-Patch: applied Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2020 01:40:44 -0500 Message-ID: <87r1ofpaj7.fsf@kyleam.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Pobox-Relay-ID: 7A2B09C2-307B-11EB-8AE4-D152C8D8090B-24757444!pb-smtp1.pobox.com Received-SPF: pass client-ip=64.147.108.70; envelope-from=kyle@kyleam.com; helo=pb-smtp1.pobox.com X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Org Mode List Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.46 X-Scanner: ns3122888.ip-94-23-21.eu Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=pobox.com header.s=sasl header.b=iWIFaO1G; dkim=pass header.d=kyleam.com header.s=mesmtp header.b=JrklGC9N; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-TUID: HNqzPStNfoUc Daniele Nicolodi writes: > On 25/11/2020 05:37, Kyle Meyer wrote: >> Daniele Nicolodi writes: [...] >>> Would it be worth to mention org-sbe in the same section of the manual? >> >> Yeah, it looks like there's no mention of org-sbe in the manual, so I >> think so (as a separate patch). > > After playing a bit with org-sbe, I came to the conclusion that it is > broken beyond repair, at least without breaking it for the people that > managed to make it work for them. > > I think that adding mention of it in the manual and explain all the > quirks of the macro is much more work than replace it with something > better. Okay. org-sbe isn't something I've ever used, and I only have a superficial understanding of it. > I tried to write a better macro, please have a look here: > > https://orgmode.org/list/d429d29b-42fa-7d7b-6f3a-9fe692fd6dc7@grinta.net/ > > and the parent message for an explanation of what I think is broken in > org-sbe. Would you support adding org-sbx (for a lack of a better name) > to ob-table.el and mention it in the manual instead of org-sbe? I would > not go as far as deprecating org-sbe, just yet, but maybe soon... Sorry, I haven't got around to looking at that thread yet (though ideally someone that knows more about org-sbe will chime in). > Subject: [PATCH] doc/org-manual.org: Extend table formulas Lisp form > documentation > > doc/org-manual.org (Emacs Lisp forms as formulas): Be more > explicit about how fields are interpolated into the Lisp forms, > clarify the use of mode flags, and add a couple more examples. Thanks for the update. Applied (b2d38a822), adding an asterisk before "doc/org-manual.org".