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[180.150.91.8]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id gd1sm580828pjb.49.2021.04.21.19.47.41 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 21 Apr 2021 19:47:41 -0700 (PDT) References: <874ktu8gr9.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87mu5xpm4x.fsf@gnu.org> <87img81ad7.fsf@gnu.org> <20210324182751.GA8721@atlantis> <87czuzprmh.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87sg3neo0k.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> User-agent: mu4e 1.4.15; emacs 28.0.50 From: Timothy To: John Kitchin Subject: Re: wip-cite status question and feedback In-reply-to: Message-ID: <87r1j3kpbp.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2021 10:47:38 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::429; envelope-from=tecosaur@gmail.com; helo=mail-pf1-x429.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." 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I mostly think the citations should be displayed as plain text, i.e. > not replaced by a numbered overlay, or equivalent. I could see hiding > the [], but also guess that would be more confusing than beneficial. As someone who works author-year inline citations into the text, APA-style, e.g. "as seen in Goaziou et al. (2021) citations in Org shall soon be possible" Seeing that as "as seen in [1] citations in Org shall soon be possible" is worse than "as seen in [cite:@goaziou2021] et al. citations in Org shall soon be possible" I think what would be ideal, would be if common citation styles could define a method which produces a display string, like "Goaziou et al. (2021)". If nothing is defined, then no overlay should be produced. -- Timothy