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From: Joost Kremers <joostkremers@fastmail.fm>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: org-cite: make 'suppress-author' a citation 'style'
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2021 11:34:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r1ixcqtj.fsf@fastmail.fm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <936a4d73-6d16-cb91-f897-1b8037a9cc3a@mailbox.org>

On Mon, Apr 26 2021, Denis Maier wrote:
> [...] Interestingly, I 
> couldn't find an easy way to get "Doe (2021, p.34; see also Smith 2020) 
> ... argues". You'd probably have to resort to lower level commands such 
> as \citeauthor in combination with other commands.
> \citeauthor{doe} \parencites*[34]{doe}{smith}

Actually, that won't print the author name of =smith=. AFAIK If you want to
suppress the author in the first citation but not in the second, you need to be
even more low-level:

\citeauthor{Chomsky1995} (\cite*[34]{Chomsky1995}, \cite{Kayne1994})

At least that's the only way I've been able to find.

IOW it seems that in biblatex, suppress-author (obtained by the asterisk
following the command) is a property of the citation command, even if it
includes multiple citations. OTOH there are real cases (I have written
references such as the example here myself) where you want it to be a property
of the individual citation.

The thing about biblatex is that it offers low-level commands that allow you to
create unusual citations (my default LaTeX header contains three definitions of
citation commands that biblatex doesn't provide but which I use quite a lot). So
I would argue that it's better to keep the syntax =-@key=, just to keep the
system flexible in case the need arises.

Joost Kremers
Life has its moments

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-04-26  9:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-24 10:52 org-cite: make 'suppress-author' a citation 'style' Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-24 12:28 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-24 17:08 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-24 17:28   ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-24 19:36     ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-24 20:09       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-24 22:51         ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-25  5:55           ` András Simonyi
2021-04-25 12:50             ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-25 19:48               ` András Simonyi
2021-04-25 20:12                 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-26  7:53                   ` Denis Maier
2021-04-26  9:05                     ` Denis Maier
2021-04-26  9:34                     ` Joost Kremers [this message]
2021-04-26 11:36                       ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-26  7:51     ` Richard Lawrence
2021-04-26  9:33       ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-27  7:36         ` Richard Lawrence
2021-04-27  7:52           ` Denis Maier
2021-04-27  8:24             ` Richard Lawrence
2021-04-27 10:05             ` Bruce D'Arcus

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