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I don't see any advantage in doing this. It is simple to include the package. Furthermore, if we start to bundle it, we also take on more responsibility for ensuring it works etc. Besides, where do we then 'draw the line' - there are lots of additional and useful Latex packages, many of which are probably even more commonly used, such as some of the packages which extend/enhance tables, code listings, etc. > > Defining the structure of an algorithm in a document is of value. > Can one do something similar using current code or does the algorithmicx > package have some more pleasant capabilities? > The algorithmicx package does add some useful functionality wrt formatting algorithms, but only for Latex exports. Just bundling the latex package with org will not change the existing situation - it will still only be functionality available with latex exports. All it *might* do is remove the requirement to install the latex package and add it to your export headers. Having similar functionality which is back end agnostic and based on just org syntax would be useful for some users. However, this would involve re-implementation of what the latex package does in elisp and adding code to the export layer to interpret the new structures appropriately. The big question is whether anyone has sufficient interest and desire for this functionality to actually do the work. My gut feeling is that the number of people who need this functionality who are not satisfied witih the current situation is too small to reach the level of critical mass that would see this requirement realised. > >> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 at 8:04 PM >> From: "Eric S Fraga" >> To: "Christopher Dimech" >> Cc: "Emacs Org mode mailing list" >> Subject: Re: example paper written in org completely >> >> On Thursday, 17 Jun 2021 at 19:19, Christopher Dimech wrote: >> > The algorithmicx latex package has a very annoying licence, the LaTeX >> > Project Public License. Although a free software license, it >> > incompatible with the GPL with many requirements. >> >> And? I'm not sure of the relevance. I use many LaTeX packages when >> writing. Whether they are GPL or not is rather secondary, in my view. >> >> -- >> : Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50, Org release_9.4.6-551-gf70e36 >> : Latest paper written in org: https://arxiv.org/abs/2106.05096 >> -- Tim Cross