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(was: [BUG] ob-python: async session evaluation does not support python-mode.el [9.6-pre (release_9.5.5-2661-g2d040b.dirty @ /home/yantar92/.emacs.d/straight/build/org/)]) In-Reply-To: <87mt9am16j.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87bkprid1d.fsf@localhost> <87mt9am16j.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2022 07:08:19 +0000 Message-ID: <87r0yk7bx8.fsf@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=yantar92@posteo.net; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." 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For users who prefer python-mode, I > think it would be better to have a separate ob-python-mode, perhaps in > org-contrib. There was a related discussion about this [1] a couple > years ago. > ... > [1] https://list.orgmode.org/87d0a95eyz.fsf@bzg.fr/ Dear All, We are currently supporting two possible python REPL backends in ob-python: `org-babel-python-mode' can be either 'python or 'python-mode for built-in python.el and third-party python-mode.el, respectively. However, supporting python-mode.el integration is difficult for Org team: neither the current ob-python maintainer nor the rest of Org team are familiar with python-mode.el. The bug discussed above already shows that parts of ob-python do not work properly with third-party python-mode.el. Should we deprecate the support altogether and not bother with the extra maintenance? Or maybe someone want to volunteer maintaining python-mode.el integration? -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at