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* descriptions about org-cycle is separated
@ 2011-12-19  7:24 Takaaki ISHIKAWA
  2011-12-20  0:14 ` Bernt Hansen
  2011-12-20 22:25 ` Bastien
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Takaaki ISHIKAWA @ 2011-12-19  7:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Orgmode List Mailing

Dear all,

Descriptions about org-cycle is separated in the
Org manual, section 2.7.

http://orgmode.org/manual/Plain-lists.html#Plain-lists

Is there any reason for this?

Best regards,
Takaaki Ishikawa

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* Re: descriptions about org-cycle is separated
  2011-12-19  7:24 descriptions about org-cycle is separated Takaaki ISHIKAWA
@ 2011-12-20  0:14 ` Bernt Hansen
  2011-12-20 22:25 ` Bastien
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Bernt Hansen @ 2011-12-20  0:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Takaaki ISHIKAWA; +Cc: Orgmode List Mailing

Takaaki ISHIKAWA <takaxp@ieee.org> writes:

> Descriptions about org-cycle is separated in the
> Org manual, section 2.7.
>
> http://orgmode.org/manual/Plain-lists.html#Plain-lists
>
> Is there any reason for this?

Not that I know of.  They should probably be merged into a single entry.

Regards,
Bernt

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* Re: descriptions about org-cycle is separated
  2011-12-19  7:24 descriptions about org-cycle is separated Takaaki ISHIKAWA
  2011-12-20  0:14 ` Bernt Hansen
@ 2011-12-20 22:25 ` Bastien
  2011-12-20 23:28   ` Bernt Hansen
  2011-12-21  3:02   ` Takaaki ISHIKAWA
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2011-12-20 22:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Takaaki ISHIKAWA; +Cc: Orgmode List Mailing

Dear Takaaki,

Takaaki ISHIKAWA <takaxp@ieee.org> writes:

> Descriptions about org-cycle is separated in the
> Org manual, section 2.7.
>
> http://orgmode.org/manual/Plain-lists.html#Plain-lists
>
> Is there any reason for this?

This isolated occurrence of `org-cycle' is about cycling
in plain lists.  There are many more occurrences of this 
notion -- typing `i' in the info manual then `cycling TAB' 
lead at least to two references.

And org-cycle is mostly documented in `Visibility cycling'
so I think things are fine here.  But please provide a patch
with a fix, perhaps I misunderstood what you suggestion!

Thanks,

-- 
 Bastien

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* Re: descriptions about org-cycle is separated
  2011-12-20 22:25 ` Bastien
@ 2011-12-20 23:28   ` Bernt Hansen
  2011-12-21  3:02   ` Takaaki ISHIKAWA
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Bernt Hansen @ 2011-12-20 23:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bastien; +Cc: Takaaki ISHIKAWA, Orgmode List Mailing

Bastien <bzg@altern.org> writes:

> Dear Takaaki,
>
> Takaaki ISHIKAWA <takaxp@ieee.org> writes:
>
>> Descriptions about org-cycle is separated in the
>> Org manual, section 2.7.
>>
>> http://orgmode.org/manual/Plain-lists.html#Plain-lists
>>
>> Is there any reason for this?
>
> This isolated occurrence of `org-cycle' is about cycling
> in plain lists.  There are many more occurrences of this 
> notion -- typing `i' in the info manual then `cycling TAB' 
> lead at least to two references.
>
> And org-cycle is mostly documented in `Visibility cycling'
> so I think things are fine here.  But please provide a patch
> with a fix, perhaps I misunderstood what you suggestion!

The <TAB> key is listed twice on that page which I think feels a little
weird.

Regards,
Bernt

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* Re: descriptions about org-cycle is separated
  2011-12-20 22:25 ` Bastien
  2011-12-20 23:28   ` Bernt Hansen
@ 2011-12-21  3:02   ` Takaaki ISHIKAWA
  2011-12-21 18:42     ` Bastien
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Takaaki ISHIKAWA @ 2011-12-21  3:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bastien; +Cc: Orgmode List Mailing

Hi Bastien,

> There are many more occurrences of this notion

Yes! you are right. But I didn't mean it.
A comment from Bernt describes more clearly.

> The <TAB> key is listed twice on that page which I think feels a little
> weird.


It is separated into P.13 and P.14. So, I make a patch, please find it below.
I just jointed the separated descriptions.

Best regards,
Takaaki


--- a/doc/org.texi
+++ b/doc/org.texi
@@ -1651,6 +1651,10 @@ the cursor is on a plain list item.  For more details, see the variable
 headlines.  The level of an item is then given by the
 indentation of the bullet/number.  Items are always subordinate to real
 headlines, however; the hierarchies remain completely separated.
+In a new item with no text yet, the first @key{TAB} demotes the item to
+become a child of the previous one.  Subsequent @key{TAB}s move the item to
+meaningful levels in the list and eventually get it back to its initial
+position.
 @orgcmd{M-@key{RET},org-insert-heading}
 @vindex org-M-RET-may-split-line
 @vindex org-list-automatic-rules
@@ -1664,11 +1668,6 @@ one.
 @kindex M-S-@key{RET}
 @item M-S-@key{RET}
 Insert a new item with a checkbox (@pxref{Checkboxes}).
-@orgcmd{@key{TAB},org-cycle}
-In a new item with no text yet, the first @key{TAB} demotes the item to
-become a child of the previous one.  Subsequent @key{TAB}s move the item to
-meaningful levels in the list and eventually get it back to its initial
-position.
 @kindex S-@key{down}
 @item S-@key{up}
 @itemx S-@key{down}

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* Re: descriptions about org-cycle is separated
  2011-12-21  3:02   ` Takaaki ISHIKAWA
@ 2011-12-21 18:42     ` Bastien
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2011-12-21 18:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Takaaki ISHIKAWA; +Cc: Orgmode List Mailing

Hi Takaaki,

Takaaki ISHIKAWA <takaxp@ieee.org> writes:

> It is separated into P.13 and P.14. So, I make a patch, please find it
> below.  I just jointed the separated descriptions.

I see now -- thanks for the patch, I've now applied it!

Best,

-- 
 Bastien

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