Bug: org manual 15.10.2 Packages that conflict with Org mode doesn't include EDE [9.1.9 (release_9.1.9-65-g5e4542 @ /usr/share/emacs/26.2/lisp/org/)]

Bug: org manual 15.10.2 Packages that conflict with Org mode doesn't include EDE [9.1.9 (release_9.1.9-65-g5e4542 @ /usr/share/emacs/26.2/lisp/org/)]

[Vladimir Nikishkin]

Remember to cover the basics, that is, what you expected to happen and
what in fact did happen.  You don't know how to make a good report?  See

     https://orgmode.org/manual/Feedback.html#Feedback

Your bug report will be posted to the Org mailing list.
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Although they actually do conflict is that the default bindings for EDE
start with C-c . ,
whereas Org uses this keybinding branch as an org-time-stamp binding.

Emacs  : GNU Emacs 26.2 (build 1, x86_64-slackware-linux-gnu, Motif Version 2.3.8)
 of 2019-05-30
Package: Org mode version 9.1.9 (release_9.1.9-65-g5e4542 @ /usr/share/emacs/26.2/lisp/org/)

current state:
==============
(setq
 org-src-mode-hook '(org-src-babel-configure-edit-buffer org-src-mode-configure-edit-buffer)
 org-after-todo-state-change-hook '(org-clock-out-if-current)
 org-babel-after-execute-hook '((lambda nil
				 (if org-inline-image-overlays
				  (progn (org-redisplay-inline-images)))
				 )
				)
 org-metadown-hook '(org-babel-pop-to-session-maybe)
 org-clock-out-hook '(org-clock-remove-empty-clock-drawer)
 org-modules '(org-habits org-w3m org-bbdb org-bibtex org-docview org-gnus org-info org-irc
	       org-mhe org-rmail)
 org-plantuml-jar-path "/usr/local/bin/plantuml.jar"
 org-mode-hook '(#[0 "\300\301\302\303\304$\207"
		   [add-hook change-major-mode-hook org-show-block-all append local] 5]
		 #[0 "\300\301\302\303\304$\207"
		   [add-hook change-major-mode-hook org-babel-show-result-all append local] 5]
		 org-babel-result-hide-spec org-babel-hide-all-hashes)
 org-archive-hook '(org-attach-archive-delete-maybe)
 org-confirm-elisp-link-function 'yes-or-no-p
 org-agenda-before-write-hook '(org-agenda-add-entry-text)
 org-metaup-hook '(org-babel-load-in-session-maybe)
 org-bibtex-headline-format-function #[257 "\300\236A\207" [:title] 3 "\n\n(fn ENTRY)"]
 org-babel-pre-tangle-hook '(save-buffer)
 org-tab-first-hook '(org-babel-hide-result-toggle-maybe org-babel-header-arg-expand)
 org-babel-load-languages '((plantuml . t))
 org-log-done 'time
 org-startup-align-all-tables t
 org-catch-invisible-edits t
 org-occur-hook '(org-first-headline-recenter)
 org-edit-src-auto-save-idle-delay 15
 org-cycle-hook '(org-cycle-hide-archived-subtrees org-cycle-hide-drawers
		  org-cycle-show-empty-lines org-optimize-window-after-visibility-change)
 org-edit-src-turn-on-auto-save t
 org-speed-command-hook '(org-speed-command-activate org-babel-speed-command-activate)
 org-confirm-shell-link-function 'yes-or-no-p
 org-link-parameters '(("id" :follow org-id-open)
		       ("rmail" :follow org-rmail-open :store org-rmail-store-link)
		       ("mhe" :follow org-mhe-open :store org-mhe-store-link)
		       ("irc" :follow org-irc-visit :store org-irc-store-link)
		       ("info" :follow org-info-open :export org-info-export :store
			org-info-store-link)
		       ("gnus" :follow org-gnus-open :store org-gnus-store-link)
		       ("docview" :follow org-docview-open :export org-docview-export :store
			org-docview-store-link)
		       ("bibtex" :follow org-bibtex-open :store org-bibtex-store-link)
		       ("bbdb" :follow org-bbdb-open :export org-bbdb-export :complete
			org-bbdb-complete-link :store org-bbdb-store-link)
		       ("w3m" :store org-w3m-store-link) ("file+sys") ("file+emacs")
		       ("doi" :follow org--open-doi-link)
		       ("elisp" :follow org--open-elisp-link)
		       ("file" :complete org-file-complete-link)
		       ("ftp" :follow (lambda (path) (browse-url (concat "ftp:" path))))
		       ("help" :follow org--open-help-link)
		       ("http" :follow (lambda (path) (browse-url (concat "http:" path))))
		       ("https" :follow (lambda (path) (browse-url (concat "https:" path))))
		       ("mailto" :follow (lambda (path) (browse-url (concat "mailto:" path))))
		       ("news" :follow (lambda (path) (browse-url (concat "news:" path))))
		       ("shell" :follow org--open-shell-link))
 org-confirm-babel-evaluate 'my-org-confirm-babel-evaluate
 )
-- 
--
Vladimir Nikishkin (MiEr, lockywolf)

Re: Bug: org manual 15.10.2 Packages that conflict with Org mode doesn't include EDE [9.1.9 (release_9.1.9-65-g5e4542 @ /usr/share/emacs/26.2/lisp/org/)]

[Nicolas Goaziou]

Hello,

Vladimir Nikishkin <lockywolf@gmail.com> writes:

> Although they actually do conflict is that the default bindings for EDE
> start with C-c . ,
> whereas Org uses this keybinding branch as an org-time-stamp binding.

I don't know what is EDE. Anyway I don't think a mere key-binding
conflict deserves an entry in the "Conflicts" section.

It's true that Org shouldn't have used `C-c .` and `C-c !` in the first
place, but that ship sailed long ago.

Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou

Re: Bug: org manual 15.10.2 Packages that conflict with Org mode doesn't include EDE [9.1.9 (release_9.1.9-65-g5e4542 @ /usr/share/emacs/26.2/lisp/org/)]

[Vladimir Nikishkin]

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EDE is  Emacs Development Environment, is shipped with stock Emacs and is
recommended to be turned on as a global minor mode, in the official Emacs
Manual, Section 25.4, page 330 of the printed version, or 352 of the pdf.

It's not a 'mere keybinding conflict', it's a conflict that anyone reading
the official manual would be bumping into. It's not some obscure tiny
extension no-one is using, it is an official part of Emacs, just as Org is.



On Sun, Jul 7, 2019, 05:05 Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Vladimir Nikishkin <lockywolf@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > Although they actually do conflict is that the default bindings for EDE
> > start with C-c . ,
> > whereas Org uses this keybinding branch as an org-time-stamp binding.
>
> I don't know what is EDE. Anyway I don't think a mere key-binding
> conflict deserves an entry in the "Conflicts" section.
>
> It's true that Org shouldn't have used `C-c .` and `C-c !` in the first
> place, but that ship sailed long ago.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Nicolas Goaziou
>

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Re: Bug: org manual 15.10.2 Packages that conflict with Org mode doesn't include EDE [9.1.9 (release_9.1.9-65-g5e4542 @ /usr/share/emacs/26.2/lisp/org/)]

[Nicolas Goaziou]

Hello,

Vladimir Nikishkin <lockywolf@gmail.com> writes:

> EDE is  Emacs Development Environment, is shipped with stock Emacs 

OK.

> and is recommended to be turned on as a global minor mode, in the
> official Emacs Manual, Section 25.4, page 330 of the printed version,
> or 352 of the pdf.

I don't see any such recommendation, but that doesn't matter.

> It's not a 'mere keybinding conflict', it's a conflict that anyone reading
> the official manual would be bumping into. It's not some obscure tiny
> extension no-one is using, it is an official part of Emacs, just as
> Org is.

You may be exaggerating a little bit. Well. Feel free to provide an
entry in "Conflicts", then.

Thank you!

Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou